AND SO, WE ARE LEFT WITH…
NEVERTHELESS…

As the threatened escalation of events in Syria seems, at least, to have simmered down, we are left with the Nevertheless Dichotomy.

The United States has apparently backed away, at least in the immediate sense, of its widely blared announcement that the time has come for military intervention in Syria by outside nations — chief among them the U.S. Nevertheless, two million people have fled the country in recent months, creating one of the worst refugee problems the world community has faced in 50 years.

Russia and the U.S. have agreed on a timetable of one week for the government of Syria to identify, and begin the dismantling of, all chemical weapons in its possession by initiating a process of turning over those weapons to international inspection, control, and destruction. Nevertheless, 10 million people inside of Syria are homeless today, thousands have been killed in the two-year old civil war that has plagued the country, and the killing goes on in this very moment.

Leaving the specifics of the Syrian crisis aside for a moment and stepping back to a larger, global picture…we see that we have created around the world a Nevertheless Society.

From the Mind of Humanity has emerged scientific discoveries, medical miracles, and technological achievements creating enhancements in human life both breathtaking and laudible. Nevertheless, nearly 700 children still die every hour on the Earth of starvation, minorities of every identity continue to be persecuted, and our species forever finds it impossible to create a global experience of security, peace, health and prosperity for any but the tiniest percentage of its members.

FOCUS: The Nature of God and Life/an exploration of critical importance in our time
PART V of an ONGOING SERIES

Our lives are today filled with modern “conveniences.” Nevertheless, for many people life has been emptied of higher meaning, grander purpose, and richer experience. And those “conveniences” — such as the ubiquitous cell phone, the ever-present laptop, the smartwatch, and now even Google glasses — have all made life more inconvenient, robbing us of what little peace and quiet and “down time” we had left. Our private moments are shrinking, even as our public persona is becoming more vacuous.

We are told that we are moving forward, forward, ever forward in our evolutionary process. Nevertheless, our path seems to be taking us backward, to a Might is Right moral code, to an Every Man for Himself reality, to a Kill or Be Killed consciousness.

This is remarkable for a species that tells itself that it has reached its highest level of awareness ever. It leads every thinking person to ask: Is it possible that there is something we don’t fully understand about Life, the understanding of which could change everything?

There are some who have said that sadness and suffering are natural conditions of the human experience. Yet my understanding is that sadness and suffering are not conditions, they are consequences. And consequences of what? They are consequences of our thinking.

Thinking is the tool that Life (read that, God) has given us with which to deal with events and circumstances, situations and occurrences in our daily experience upon the earth. Yet why do events and circumstances, situations and occurrences that produce sadness and suffering even have to arise?

The answer is circular. Thinking is the tool given to us to deal with events and circumstances, and thinking is the creative force that generates them.

Life will be experienced by each of us in the way that we think about its events—and the way that we think about its events collectively creates those events themselves.

That includes the crisis in Syria, the hundreds of dying children each day, and every other aspect of life — both good and bad — that we encounter and experience in the physical world.

How and why this is true…next in this series.

There is a way we can bring an end to the Nevertheless Society. That is what this series of articles is all about.

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  • mewabe

    “Nevertheless, our path seems to be taking us backward, to a Might is Right moral code, to an Every Man for Himself reality, to a Kill or Be Killed consciousness”

    I agree completely, this is so true.

    “Yet my understanding is that sadness and suffering are not conditions, they are consequences. And consequences of what? They are consequences of our thinking.”

    I partially disagree. Yes pain, sadness, suffering are consequences, of course.

    It is very true that most adults have the power to choose how they will react to any given situation, unless they have some serious psychological illness.

    However, there is such a thing as the unconscious, the formation of which begins the moment life begins or perhaps even before, as we carry within our own psyches all unresolved, unhealed experiences.

    Here is a simple example of how the unconscious works: A girl might grow up mostly ignored by her father, from the time she is an infant to when she is adult. She is not getting her childhood needs for love, affection, support, fulfilled. She has so much CUMULATIVE pain that the brain automatically suppresses it, at least partly. She grows up feeling dissatisfied with everything…nothing can fill that void within her. She then may transfer this childhood need in what is called symbolic acting out (acting out her pain).

    (Note: the brain suppresses pain automatically because emotional pain (meaning having one’s needs unmet) could actually kill an infant, any toddler younger than 3 years old, if this pain was fully felt by him or her, or severally damage his/her development to the point that the brain would not develop properly. So pain is buried in the unconscious, as a survival process.)

    This process is indeed unconscious…people do not choose to suffer consciously. In the example above the woman may act out her need for her father’s love and attention by becoming very sexual and seductive, attracting the attention of many men this way. Or she may strive to super achieve, to be extremely successful in order to gain recognition and praises, validation, approval, attention from specific men or male figures in her life. Or she may act helpless, attracting men who will “rescue” her.
    These choices would not be conscious either, they would dictated by other unconscious psychological factors.

    None of this acting out would satisfy her, however. Because the original need for her father’s love and attention would remain forever unfulfilled, by definition. No unmet childhood needs can be satisfied in adult life…it is too late. This is why compulsions (acting out one’s pain) keep going forever, one “bad” compulsion being often replaced by a socially approved one (such as alcoholism being replaced by overwork, a common occurrence).

    And no one can “think” their way around this type of unresolved, “old” pain.

    “Spiritual” people do not want to hear this, as most uses spirituality as yet another defense against feeling old pain (after alcohol, drugs, sexual obsessions, over-achievement and other compulsions have failed to give them “happiness”). As a matter of fact, 90% of humanity does not like to hear this. Why?

    Who wants to feel pain? No one. Suppression is natural and actually necessary for survival in the short run, at the early stages of life…it does nor mean it is good for us in the long run, during adulthood.

    Yes, we can think our way in and out of present events and circumstances when we are completely clear of our own past, when we have resolved our old pains and other issues and have healed.

    But honestly, how many people do you know who are clear? How many do you see who react appropriately to any given circumstance, who do not bring their own baggage into it, and do not experience things through the very distorted lenses of wounded, angry or fearful perceptions rooted in their distant past, in their UNCONSCIOUS?

    Thinking our way out of what some call “negativity” or “drama” (which are simply expressions of unresolved pain) by any mental trick (“thinking”) would be comparable to laying new wallpaper over old one…it might work and look good for a while, but eventually the old wallpaper will create problem, as it is still there, although covered cosmetically.

    The same goes with the unconscious. The unconscious is not a dog that can be commanded to “obey” by his “master” (master thoughts from the conscious). It has a life of its own, that requires full expression, as does all life, and healing when applicable.

    If we had no old wounds whatsoever, no unconscious baggage from early childhood, there would be no need to direct our thoughts to react appropriately (in a healthy way) to events and circumstances in the first place. The reactions would be natural, spontaneously directed towards healing and sanity, towards resolution and happiness.

  • Judy Devlin

    Phew! That is a lot to digest!
    “Life without emotion, is like a car without fuel” Pretty useless.
    However, I have learned that Hurting another On Purpose, or having been hurt by someone On Purpose is the difference, or dividing line. Most people take every thing, especially the bad inconvenient stuff WAY too personal.
    Once a person can decipher between the On Purpose hurts and Not Personal hurts we feel, we can lighten our Load considerably.
    (An example of an On Purpose Hurt would be like Premeditated Murder as oppose to self-defense etc.)

    • mewabe

      When a person hurt another willfully, it is usually because s/he think, believe, feel that s/he has no other avenue to express whatever it is that he or she needs to express, usually because of some psychological immaturity, as such person frequently perceives him/herself to be a victim (surprisingly).

      If such a person is willing to be honest and listen, you may ask, not in accusatory manner but from the heart, from an authentically feeling and loving place: “What is it that frightened or hurt you so much that you feel you have no other recourse but to strike?”

      The person might break open, in which case there would be plenty of room for mutual healing.

      However if the person remains closed up and defended, then there are no other options but to walk away.

  • Diana Long

    I read on one of your entries, that no one had commented on the article. I Just wanted to say I savor every written piece that each of your writers submits. But, I’m a lurker. I just read and rarely comment. Please don’t judge the article with how many comments it receives. I cherish them all.

  • mewabe

    As an aside note and to go beyond the mainstream media and political hysteria considering chemical weapons…

    Yes, chemical weapons are horrific. So are all conventional weapons. So are nuclear weapons.

    After having signed a petition against the war in Syria sent to my so-called “representatives”, I received a letter explaining how a video shown to Senators and Congressmen documented children in their pyjamas in agony slowly dying on the floor of a building in Syria.

    Okay…….yes, this is horrible. HOWEVER, are these politicians as concerned about the thousands of children presently suffering from cancer and HORRIFIC birth defects in irak AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE USE OF DEPLETED URANIUM?

    Have they seen pictures of these birth defects? Have they shed tears over them?

    And if not, WHY NOT?

    This is why, when I hear a politician who professes to want to save the world and who points to the “evil” of a particular foreign leader, I gag.

    Honestly.

    • Erin

      Could not those that alter foods & waters with chemical contrivances be on like route? Yes, a slower, more subtle means, but equally effective in dismantling body vehicles & destruction of surrounds, yes?

      Perhaps Seeing many departments of present governing of the U.S. as “using chemical warfare upon its own” should evoke a clearer picture of such event. The pic including the Western Medical Alliance (which includes their dental-folk, unlike most insurance), the FDA & EPA who comply with their legal needs, and businesses in pharmaceuticals & food production who fuel their lobbies & produce their ‘weaponry’. Talk about a lucrative & inglorious ‘human management system’!

      Perhaps there is a difference in people being bombarded quickly & ‘against their will’ while the U.S. rather bombards medial marketing & store shelves so peeps can do unto themselves? Effective either way…same difference, no?
      Just a thought…Love ya! 🙂

  • Erin

    I would really like to see a new perspective of what being part of a military is about.

    To be honest, it is not ‘the few’, “the 1%” of the majority, that makes this stuff happen…it is the millions of military that surround them that are the deed-doers.

    Much like their own religion, they are the power behind the pedestal-ed. They are trained with the theology that they are ‘saving’ country (only their own, of course), they are the proud, the Super-men, the Might of the Right (those that dangle the paychecks get to define ‘right’, of course), and the majority raises these de-sensitized humans as their prides & joys…their children who fight FOR them. It is not so funny that very very few of these highly re-designed ‘thinkers’ can replace themselves back into the societies they ‘save’ with the functionality they once had.

    When will We see these cammoed-folk, our ‘heroes’…our children…lay down the weaponry handed them, refuse to board the planes, and ‘take back’ their minds & hearts in a truly mighty stand of “Enough!”??? Perhaps when any one faction of their kind does not imagine that ‘They are the Best’ of the rest? Perhaps when They unite as One power-force, honoring themselves as ‘of the People, paid by the People, to serve their People’, rather than an ego-maniacal ‘few’? Perhaps when the People stop pushing their children to become stripe & medal worshippers, testosterone-boosted weapon wielders, and government benefit seekers? (note: No one should have to ‘lay down their life’ for continued education! A totally absurd notion that undeniably sent thousands of senior high-schoolers to the recruiting offices…many of which were ‘guided’ there by their parents who bought into yet another inglorious marketing ploy.)

    Wanna count the numbers of kids who come home in boxes for heroic funerals rather than grand celebrations of ‘benefits’? How about the numbers of youth that come back maimed in body, mind, & spirit? Their bennies are lack-luster VA care, ‘new’ extremities, and/or all the drugs they want…Oh, yeah, and they can buy a house with a lower APR than ‘lay-folk’.

    Where is the ‘honor’ in any of this stuff? What are WE thinking when fueling ‘the few’ with OUR children? idk…makes no sense.

    Being that Nevertheless’ opposite is Alwaysthemore…I Am curious where your series on this will go. 🙂

    • Judy Devlin

      I view the military the same way- the Us vs Them mentality guised under a corporate controlled ‘Homeland Patriotism’. Blind Loyalty and the Follow, Follow, Follow meme. Even our biggest media stuff like FaceBook and Twitter encourage Follow, Follow, Follow. I find it all very Sad…

    • Victor

      Unfortunately, I think that the movie “Full Metal Jacket”, by Stanley Kubrick is still a big reality…

      A general brainwashing not only by and for the military but in all society.

  • Victor

    The origin of all this…

    I was amazed a couple of days ago reading a monumental book by Paramahansa
    Yogananda named “The Second Coming of Christ”, and find that he believed
    that Satan exists! He gives a long explanation, nothing superficial,
    about how and why Satan arised, based in the polarity of our physical
    realm, etc. Of course he does not give him a character as another god,
    the compliment of The ONE Spirit, the All in All is ONE, etc. but he
    does explain that Satan is a real personality with a purpose, functions,
    created by God, as part of the duality experience, etc. Jesus several times mentioned him (“he is homicide from the begininng, liar, and father of Lie”, etc.).

    So, Satan is in part responsible for the ‘exagerated’ duality, illusion, denial, unconsciousness, pain and suffering of this world.

    Interesting, but I didn’t buy it. I don’t see any point in it.

    Perhaps I’m too influenced by Conversations with God, that states that this devil, Satan, does not exist at all, he,he.

    But as part of this topic, or another, I would like an exploration about this Satan and/or all the ‘negative’ forces of the Earth or our Universe, because certainly, they get very much of the ‘credit’ for so much suffering and sadness. CWG states very emphatically that any devil nor Satan exists. What about other ‘negative influences’, like extraterrestrial beings, such as the “reptillians”, etc. that other authors identify as cultural influences in the far past of Humanity, and still present today in Bilderberg, governments, corporations, etc., as some say?

    Anyway a good topic, isn’t it Neale?

    • mewabe

      My understanding is that all “negative” influence originates from within human consciousness…There is no one “out there” beaming negativity upon us.

      Humanity seems to have great difficulty owning its baggage…I have no doubt that if we end up destroying the earth ecology beyond repair, many among us will say that the devil did it, or “aliens”.

      As long as we keep imagining an outer source of negativity, we won’t heal this negativity. We have to own it first.

      However…all thoughts and feelings have energy, and negative thoughts may form fields of resonance, a “gestalt” which does not have an independent consciousness but which may be as a sort of psychic fog or pollution around the earth. Some people, whose inner state resonates with this field, may be inviting its energy into their lives.

      Satan is a concept, a construct…like all mythological figures, it exists within the collective unconscious.

      Because humanity cannot imaging anything beyond polarity, it cannot comprehend the absolute (such as infinity, eternity, etc), it mentally created a “devil” as a polarized counterpart to a God.

      The God is above, and good, so the “devil” has to be below, and bad…etc.

      Actually, the divine is neither “good” nor “bad” in our terms…its “goodness” is beyond our judgment. The Divine simply is, and it is All.

      All negativity comes from imagining that there exists a place within us and in others, where love is not and cannot be. This place is a place of judgment…of condemnation…it is the hell within.

      In truth, there is absolutely nothing within us and in others that love cannot reach and redeem, transform, restore to its original beauty, innocence and unity.

      Judgment is the only obstacle to such transformation…no one should judge pain, fear, anger, even hatred when such feeling appears…for if you follow the thread of such feelings all the way to their origins, the origins are always love…love betrayed, love withheld, love trampled…love that was not allowed expression and fulfillment, whether in infancy, childhood or adulthood.

      Feelings, which are often confused with emotions, are not given much thought on this website and generally speaking by the spiritually inclined, who prefer concepts, thoughts. Too bad, as love is a feeling, and the only real door to the Spirit.

      • Kristen

        Mewabe – Satan is a real person, read Genesis, and he is currently ruling the afterlife. His trademark in attacks against us is fractured or injured ankles as per the Genesis curses. Have a think, and you will probably find that in your work as a light worker or similar that when evil are threatened by you, ie you are successful they will arrange these attacks on you since they think they can get away with it as a curse with consent. I’ve had this happen quite badly this you, and someone pointed out that as soon as I get involved with guys they all end up in hospital with shattered ankles. As has my father when staying with us. Think back, and also think about your fellow workers. Bu yes, you are correct that all negative energy is produced by us on Earth, those above can only follow our lead or tempt us, never control us!

        • mewabe

          The beliefs or perceptions we adopt and use are those that serve our purposes at a particular time and place. At times, we may keep a belief system going through several lifetimes, until we are ready to question it and open up to other possibilities.

          The catch is that whatever you believe will be confirmed in your life, as you will manifest it around you. You will then become more entrenched in such beliefs. But if your belief hurt you or those around you, you may want to question it, as your beliefs have a power you might not suspect at this time in your life.

          Yest, as a Christian, you have probably heard of the power of faith, or believing? Well, your belief in the existence of “Satan” as a ruler is just as powerful as any faith.

          Some Christians are so obsessed with the “devil” I used to joke that they were devil worshipers.

          “Believe and you will see”
          Frank Fools Crow, Oglala Lakota

          • Kristen

            Not a Christian, a Kabbalist with no religious affiliations at all. You cannot create what does not exist into your life nor can people create any ficticious characters. In fact we cannot deliberately attract evil even if people desire to, the closest that can occur is if evil entities are lurking and they may be drawn to a persons negative energy under the Law of Like Attracts Like, a part of the Law of Attraction which will generally result in mental health issues. I absolutely have never not have any intention of inviting anything negative around and nor should anyone. You can dismiss anything in the Bible as lies if you choose to do so, but just as you believe that our own beliefs can create a manifestation, then surely you must also believe that to believe in something does not make it the truth or real nor alter the truth. To deny the existance of anything or anyone does not make it cease to exist, this would be a great concept though and certainly help the world become a better place but burying our heads in the sand will not help anyone unfortunately. The truth remains the truth whether we believe it or not, it does not have to be proven to each individual to become real, this would be the mentality of flat earthers in a modern world. I have tried to give you the proven truth that I have to open your mind into believing that there are negative influences. Just as you want to help others to understand your interpretation and understanding of the truth, I also believe that your personal views and that of the new age movement in general will have a negative impact or a ‘power you might not suspect at this time in your life’. Yes beliefs can be dangerous especially as they are the main form of brainwashing used universally, but denial is even more so.

          • Victor

            Ok, I find your allegations very interesting, because these are subjects that we face often here: truth, denial, brainwashing, creation, manifestation, the real, the unreal, the imagined, the illusion, the facts, what is so, or what is not so…

            Of course, you appear to sustain that everything that appears in the Bible is real or truth, which I don’t, for instance. If that’s the case, we’re talking from different standpoints in a huge manner. But anyway, we still can talk.

            This phrase by you calls my attention: “I have tried to give you the proven truth that I have to open your mind into believing that there are negative influences.”

            What “proven” truth are you talking about?

            Greetings

          • Kristen

            Hi Victor – I’ve never come across you before! No-one would be insane enough to believe everything in the Bible is the truth and correct – or perhaps that is the definition of a Christian! I recognise God as the God of Law which is His universal role, including the top position of a punishing judge. Which differs greatly from the entire CwG message about God – I know that and Neale knows my views from previous visits and I’ve only been banned once that I am aware of.
            In order to try to explain to Mewabe that Satan is real I gave him my proven truth of ankle attacks, which is also explained in Genesis as I do not expect anyone to believe in anything without personal proof. Again that is brainwashing; if we believe everything anyone says what would be the point of personal intelligence or the mental capacity to calulate and process information for ourselves? My ‘thing’ is not the Bible or religion, it is Universal Law, which when studying must be proven by me or others I know are speaking the truth, or it is impossible to define things as a clear definitive Law bestowed on us from above. In fact when undertaking Masters papers it is a requirement to give three proven examples of every Law. IF you want me to believe anything, prove it, and if I can trust that you are not a liar or deceiver then I am happy to believe your experiences are the truth and are good enough for me. I do not have to be a physicist to believe that physics is in place.
            I know the topics you have bought up only to well, again, as I just typed to Mewabe, it does not matter our beliefs or religion, only the Truth and the aspects of The Source we are all from is what counts. We just have to be very careful not to produce any negative energy when encountering people with differing beliefs. It is this awareness that means I am comfortable on this site when I know I am completely different to everyone else in here and am not a CwGer or fan.

          • mewabe

            Kristen, I think the same way…I have never been a follower of anything, of religion or spiritual schools. Some things resonate with me, some I understand, others I have no interest in.

            I am not part of any fan club…I agree with some of the obvious statements in CWG, as I had come to some of the same conclusions when I was a teenager (I was blessed with never having been conditioned by religion, so it was easy for me to see things more clearly). There are however many things in CWG with which I disagree, or that simply do not go far enough.

            I understand that Neale had to be careful as he is addressing the mainstream culture, and cannot antagonize and offend too much…and it does not take much to offend the somewhat brainwashed masses.

            But overall I think Neale is helping people, particularly former Christians, to get past their dogma and open up to something a bit more real, less constricted.

          • Kristen

            Agree, and like you I have never been a part of any religons or raised by religious parents so my mind, and me, was a blank canvas for me to create

          • Victor

            Thanks for your answer; Kristen.

            Thank you also, Mewabe. As always, great insights!

            I have to say that I find CWG one of the spiritual books that I’ve found more grounded in common sense and universal spirituality, -well, not exactly common sense, but great awareness in many topics-, and yes, very brave in saying several difficult things, though I agree with you, Mewabe: “I understand that Neale had to be careful as he is addressing the mainstream culture, and cannot antagonize and offend too much…” I have that impression too…

            Nevertheless, I find very important to go deeper into this matter: the distinction between a ‘factual’ truth, or a ‘chosen’ truth. Both are almost equally important, but there’s a difference.

            I mean: I can believe that anything is real, and if I believe it so, that will be true for me, and many things about that belief will become ‘operational’ in many practical ways, confirming my truth. B.e., if I take a placebo believing that it is medicine, it is very possible that I get cured from some illness. If I believe that Virgin Mary exists as a personal entity, and I pray to her, it’s very possible that I get some miracle or favours, if I believe that people are awful and dangerous, very probably, my experience will confirm that. This is what I’m calling “chosen truth”.

            A “factual truth” is something that is there as an ‘objective’ fact, object, or phenomenon, in other words -because ‘objectivity’ is a very questioned term nowadays-, something that manifests capable to be experienced, noted or validated by anybody without major effort by means of senses, observation, or experience. if I see a building in the corner, anybody near it -unless he is blind- will see it. We can talk about the wind, or the sun, and anybody could validate the fact that there is a circle in the sky that provides light and heat, or a sensation of movement within the air that we call wind. Etc.

            Of course there is all a wide category of things that ‘exist’ out there, that are more difficult to be sensed, or experienced by anybody, due to their nature: abstract, under or over senses, distance, complexity, etc. And as many philosophers, researchers, epistemologysts, are telling us, ultimately everything is a sort of illusion or construction created in our brains, and everything is contextual, with meanings depending in cultural conditions, etc., etc.

            But what I’m talking about is the difference between observing something that is ‘there’ , or believing-creating something there. Existence as a created outcome different to existence as a ‘fact’.

            If somebody believes as his reality that eating little stones from the river is good for health, and I don’t; ok, it may be truth for him/her and perhaps it becomes really so. If I’d eat those stones, probably they would injure my digestive system. But if anybody sustains as a truth that we don’t need food nor water for sustaining our physical body, and all we need is sunlight, well, very probably ‘reality’ would show a very different thing very soon. If somebody says that a car moving directly towards him/her, doesn’t exist, and nothing will occur, well, very probably we’ll have a big bunch of broken bones…

            So, this Satan thing… I think that Mewabe and others perhaps would say that he is a created, symbolic reality, a symbol of darkness, negativity, and fear. Kristen seems to say that it is not a created reality, but a factual entity, with personality, life and conscious mind. CWG seems to say that it doesn’t exist at all as a factual reality, as a flat Earth doesn’t exist, or dinosaurs exist no more. Others would say that he is a projection of psychic energy with existence in the astral realm or level, with other entities such as Superman, Batman, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, Spider Man or Dracula; some call these things ‘egregors’. Others would say that he exists in the same realm or level of Buda /Siddhartha Gautama, Jesus, angels, etc.or in other dimension. The Course in Miracles would say that Satan is a representation of the ego. Etc.

            The other thing is what kind of influence these kind of imagined, created, symbolic or factual realities we believe, think, are capable to exert in human beings, and what meaning we assign to them.

            For me, this guy is so real as Superman, Frankenstein, Peter Pan, Santa Claus, or Betty Boop. Or if something like this entity exists in some place, dimension or realm, has the same power than Dracula or the Joker.

            I guess that Kristen would say that to believe so is very dangerous.

            I think that much more dangerous are our unconscious forces, fears, and beliefs, and the power of ignorance, greed, dominion, indiference, cruelty, and unconsciousness everywhere.

            Where do all these things come from? I’m not sure, but I could say, that without the need of reaching the very origin, we could say that they come from cultural/emotional patterns repeated time after time, century after century, millennina after millennia in a very deep, powerful and spreaded matrix.

            A cultural paradigm.

            And we can change it. Individually and collectively.

            This is what I believe.

          • Kristen

            Hi there. I have always been honest about only skimming through the CwG books, and always been open about not believing for one minute that Neales God is the same as my Biblical God. In fact I think book 3 states “I am a new God”. And I am not a new ager so it isn’t my place to go into matters that will be disrespectful to the main concept of this site. This Neales site and I respect that. His site, his teachings, his God or interpretation of. I believe in Santa by the way, I have to be Santa every year so when my kids stockings are full every Xmas, and boxes have been delivered to the Salvation Army, and Xmas Cakes delivered to a community Xmas lunch for the less fortunate, and my bank balance is empty is this an illusion? Or does this play into Mewabes concept that like Satan, Santa is only existing because I am inviting him into my life and creating an illusion of reality by playing this role? Is the sound of 20 half drunk teenagers singing ‘I should have bought you flowers’ from my garage an illusion?. I do hope so for the neighbours sake, and they would probably rather believe in Satan. Perhaps I can quote some CwG at them to convince them it isn’t real.
            I am doing a disappearing act for a bit so I am not hiding from confrontation or differences of opinion when I don’t reply. I’m taking my 93 year old nana on a road trip for a few days. Old people are such fun on roadtrips. Roll on Thelma and Louise.
            Take care.

          • mewabe

            Thanks Kristen for this exchange of ideas…

            I did not mean to appear like I was attacking your beliefs. All beliefs are valid as long as they serve a purpose.

            Which is why I never discuss beliefs past initial statements that express where I stand. I find debating completely pointless, as its purpose is to “prove” the other person’s statements “wrong”.

            When you stand strong in your own truth, when you know who your are and you are grounded in your experience, in your “beingness”, you not need to prove anything or convert anyone to validate such experience.

            You seem to indicate that you know what “The Truth” is…if you do, it is good, you should be really grateful, happy, and rejoice!

          • Kristen

            Hi ya, you are right. No matter the route or belief system, we are all ultimately under The Source who oversees everything and all souls are made of The Source energy, hence everyone having more in common than differences. The Source energy is pure love although there is much to go through before we can understand and feel this. I choose Kabbalah as it explains and defines everything very well, especially the Tree of Life journey everyone is on no matter their beliefs, God or religion, which ultimately ends up at The Source. Kabbalah did not change my views on anything and the core basis is understanding things via intuition, which develops once we progress and can access only the highest realms and The Source, rather than learning anything chanelled or from others on Earth, most of which is incorrect information from the lower realms. You are blessed to have a Native North American Guide as they are the only authorised guides, the rest are just dead people in the afterlife who have no idea what they are doing nor of the truth. The Sources only vested interests are Love, Beauty, Perfection and The Sun which transmits positive energy and represents all that is good, as well as being our solar power source that feeds our souls and our entire being.
            You cannot attack my beliefs, just as I cannot attack yours as when we believe in something so strongly and KNOW it to be the truth it is imbedded in the pure positive aspects of our souls and becomes the core of us. This is also one of the determinations of Christs or Enlightened Ones, the truth and The Source becomes them, rather than them gaining information from books. This cannot happen with anything negative, it is only negative or incorrect aspects that need questioning or proving in people in this core soul state.
            I bought up my information about Satan as I feel, and believe, it is very dangerous to teach people that such entities do not exist, and should not be taught. Thats all.

          • mewabe

            I like your ideas Kristen, and can relate to them. Native Americans also have the tree of life.

            Black Elk (Lakota) spoke of the tree of life, which he saw in a sacred vision…symbolically, it stood at the center of the people, of all life, representing, among other things, life force and unity, and growth. He saw that this tree of life was now dead among his people, and the people were lost. But he saw it bloom again at some point, and the people happy again.

            We are living in a dark period…a spiritual storm, and many are lost and swept away by its scattering winds, shaken to the core and without spiritual grounding. It will get a lot worse, and possibly terrifying for many. Despair will spread globally and engulf the world, we are only seeing the beginning (I know this from a personal vision spontaneously given by a very evolved entity in 1994.)

            This period however is necessary for rapid growth…it is shaking the whole world, and shaking us within, but with the darkness comes the light…it is a paradox, as it is the very presence of the light that is shaking the darkness loose (from our collective and individual consciousness) and causing it to be made visible to us, so we can become conscious of it and finally let go of it, as we would let go of a nightmare when waking up.

            We will wake up at the very end (I saw this as well in the vision.)

            I have always used intuition and inner guidance, it’s part of my life as I am an artist (I create through intuition, not from the logical part of the mind…I follow my gut feelings etc..often, when something is important, I can see the entire future of a given situation before entering into it. I do not seek to do this, it happens spontaneously.)

            Yes, embodying the truth is the purest form of manifestation, of self realization. It comes from within indeed, when we finally open up to our inner divine guidance.

            But the intention must be true and pure, meaning of “one” mind (single-mindedness). That’s the meaning of purity: without inner conflicts or divisions…one in heart, mind, body and spirit, in unity with the universe and the Source.

            As long as we are divided within, our vision is muddy and we cannot embody such truth…we can talk about it, but we cannot BE it. To be it, we have to become like the source: one. That’s the real meaning of purity, of ONE mind and heart.

            Do you know one of the oldest spiritual symbols seen throughout the world? A cross within a circle…this is also Native American, known as the “four directions”, representing the integration of heart, mind, body and spirit, within a universe, a creation that like a circle is without beginning nor end. At the center of the cross is the ONE source, the Center of All That Is, which is where we stand when we become one within and one with All Life.

            There are many layers of meaning in this symbol, as with the tree of life that could also represent the rise of the kundalini energy, which leads to spiritual awakening if directed properly, to chaos if not.

          • Kristen

            Hi ya. Every religion and teaching has some form of the Tree of Life, we are all on it, and to not conquer it and reach The Source means people are reincarnated. I am a first lifer, not reincarnated, so it would be a waste of my time and my life not to complete this journey that so many have put in place for us, and I personally feel an insult to God, Y’shua and all the other teachers who have travelled though this planet to teach us to ignore their lessons and teachings. Which people on a selfish, yet self wasting path of wealth and greed are on. Yes I know we are only at the beginning of torment and destruction and heading into the age of cataclysm. Exiting but very sucky that many will suffer for the actions of others. I have encountered your main guide, which is why I knew last year he was Native North American before you mentioned it. You may or may not recall. He has been in some of my intuitive ‘classes’ with Universal Law papers and knows my Kabbalic teacher above. He is undertaking his Christ Consciousness papers so is working under Creator and The Source rather than God doing Natural Law studies rather than the legal papers. His point is that if people follow Natural Law there is no need for legal law so in his world there is no requirement for these. Many Christs function on this basis as it is not a requirement to undertake anything when you can prove that if things were done correctly those things would not exist. I feel this way about the afterlife as to me dead means dead. People have one shot at it, and thats it. Stuff up, you’re mortal, end of story! And he is on a committee that is almost like trustees as Native Americans OWN America and Canada and all in them. He calls me pony in a different language as I wear a ponytail everyday and it is probably my totem animal!
            Neale sorry this is way off the subject. Sorry to ramble, but I do have something to say about thinking. People who cannot or will not think for themselves are what I would define as brainwashed. As God puts it in the Bible “Be hot or cold, never luke warm”, or agree or disagree, but never take what others say to be the truth and never just agree with others as it is easier than using your own brain.

          • Kristen

            Oops, I didn’t read properly. Thanks you for your information that you are an artist. Damn Law of Attraction, and that The Source is snooping 24/7. Last night I mentally questioned what your job would be as you seem to have a lot of time to think, study, type etc. Not intended in a negative way. I never get used to all questions being answered, nor that when tuned in with intuition The Source is snooping. No such thing as private thoughts on the intuitive frequencies as you will well know, as will Neale but it would be very odd to be normal!.

      • Kristen

        Oops, that was this YEAR, not this you. And BUT yes, rather than bu yes.

      • Therese

        Yes, the “devil” was simply a construct to understand the law of opposites. it was a construct used in this experience to have context. Instead of “evil”, we, of the more evolving Human species, should use terms like, “The opposite of”, or “what doesn’t work”, don’t you think?

        Judgement can move to understanding even if we don’t think that a thing is working for the greater good, or as an expression of a person’s divinity. We too often just stay in our own little bubble of comfort and judge, rather than looking for the root cause…of course, the root cause would have to also cause us to look into ourselves, and then into our religions and cultures, and all things that surround and influence us. Then we would have to take a huge jump out of our comfort zones and make a conscious change. THAT is fearful…

        Which takes us to your statement that Love is everything. We feel unloved when we do not do as the collective dictates we do…we yearn to be part of the collective, even when it does nothing to allow us to even be ourselves. I think we are now realizing, if even in small portion, that we must have a relationship with ourselves, in order to have any kind of meaningful relationship with others, or even with the collective.

        • mewabe

          Yes, when we struggle for love, from another or from the collective, it is because we have forgotten that we are love. We then think we need love as an empty stomach needs food (or as does a child), because we do not feel our fullness, our wholeness, we do not feel that we are complete unto ourselves and that all we really need is to share love.

          And this condition, struggling, which is very widespread, comes from a mixture of beliefs, religious and cultural conditioning, spiritual self-betrayal, and a past history of some degree of deprivation from childhood (having some needs unmet, which we then attempt to fulfill in adulthood, symbolically, and pointlessly).

          Such struggling causes suffering.

          Yes, to look into ourselves is the greatest possible accomplishment, and the most frightening indeed…it takes the greatest courage, honesty and humility. Most will go into any kind of drama, including death, rather than heal themselves…

          To love ourselves means allowing ourselves to feel all we need to feel, express all we need to express, honor who we are, and reject everything that goes against the truth within our hearts and souls, that goes against the divine within, which is very much alive, and sovereign, as is all life.

    • We invent God & Satan according to our image of what we think life currently is.

      Life is energy & like electricity it can be used to benefit or harm depending on how we use it.

      I concur with Mewabe below.

      Let’s take responsibility for the evil as we interpret it in the world as having something to do with us as individuals & the collective. Not by some devil or evil dark alien. We so love to excuse ourselves from the reponsibility & consequences that we create!

      It’s been said “Do you know what the greatest crime
      propagated by the Devil on Mankind was?

      Is that he exists.

      Do you know what an even bigger crime committed by Humanity was?

      Is that we believed it…”

  • Awareness

    “Therefore the 21st of September will mark the conclusion of the old realm of thinking and thoughts and beliefs that have so long dominated planet Earth” by Cosmic Awareness (GREAT SPIRIT! GREAT CREATOR!) 🙂

    Interesting, the 21st of September is also the next call with Neale Donald Walsch 🙂

    Bless ALL 🙂

  • Victor

    I put this comment here for general interest. Originally it was an answer to Kristen and Mewabe, below… :

    I have to say that I find CWG one of the spiritual books that I’ve
    found more grounded in common sense and universal spirituality, -well,
    not exactly common sense, but great awareness in many topics-, and yes,
    very brave in saying several difficult things, though I agree with you,
    Mewabe: “I understand that Neale had to be careful as he is addressing
    the mainstream culture, and cannot antagonize and offend too much…” I
    have that impression too…

    Nevertheless, I find very important to go deeper into this matter:
    the distinction between a ‘factual’ truth, or a ‘chosen’ truth. Both are
    almost equally important, but there’s a difference.

    I mean: I can believe that anything is real, and if I believe it so,
    that will be true for me, and many things about that belief will become
    ‘operational’ in many practical ways, confirming my truth. B.e., if I
    take a placebo believing that it is medicine, it is very possible that I
    get cured from some illness. If I believe that Virgin Mary exists as a
    personal entity, and I pray to her, it’s very possible that I get some
    miracle or favours, if I believe that people are awful and dangerous,
    very probably, my experience will confirm that. This is what I’m calling
    “chosen truth”.

    A “factual truth” is something that is there as an ‘objective’ fact,
    object, or phenomenon, in other words -because ‘objectivity’ is a very
    questioned term nowadays-, something that manifests capable to be
    experienced, noted or validated by anybody without major effort by means
    of senses, observation, or experience. if I see a building in the
    corner, anybody near it -unless he is blind- will see it. We can talk
    about the wind, or the sun, and anybody could validate the fact that
    there is a circle in the sky that provides light and heat, or a
    sensation of movement within the air that we call wind. Etc.

    Of course there is a wide category of things that ‘exist’ out
    there, that are more difficult to be sensed, or experienced by anybody,
    due to their nature: abstract, under or over senses, distance,
    complexity, etc. And as many philosophers, researchers, epistemologysts,
    are telling us, ultimately everything is a sort of illusion or
    construction created in our brains, and everything is contextual, with
    meanings depending in cultural conditions, etc., etc.

    But what I’m talking about is the difference between observing
    something that is ‘there’ , or believing-creating something there.
    Existence as a created outcome different to existence as a ‘fact’.

    If somebody believes as his reality that eating little stones from
    the river is good for health, and I don’t; ok, it may be truth for
    him/her and perhaps it becomes really so. If I’d eat those stones,
    probably they would injure my digestive system. But if anybody sustains
    as a truth that we don’t need food nor water for sustaining our physical
    body, and all we need is sunlight, well, very probably ‘reality’ would
    show a very different thing very soon. If somebody says that a car
    moving directly towards him/her, doesn’t exist, and nothing will occur,
    well, very probably we’ll have a big bunch of broken bones…

    So, this Satan thing… I think that Mewabe and others perhaps would
    say that he is a created, symbolic reality, a symbol of darkness,
    negativity, and fear. Kristen seems to say that it is not a created
    reality, but a factual entity, with personality, life and conscious
    mind. CWG seems to say that it doesn’t exist at all as a factual
    reality, as a flat Earth doesn’t exist, or dinosaurs exist no more.
    Others would say that he is a projection of psychic energy with
    existence in the astral realm or level, with other entities such as
    Superman, Batman, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, Spider Man or Dracula; some
    call these things ‘egregors’. Others would say that he exists in the
    same realm or level of Buda /Siddhartha Gautama, Jesus, angels, etc.or
    in other dimension. The Course in Miracles would say that Satan is a
    representation of the ego. Etc.

    The other thing is what kind of influence these kind of imagined,
    created, symbolic or factual realities we believe, think, are capable to
    exert in human beings, and what meaning we assign to them.

    For me, this guy is so real as Superman, Frankenstein, Peter Pan,
    Santa Claus, or Betty Boop. Or if something like this entity exists in
    some place, dimension or realm, has the same power than Dracula or the
    Joker.

    I guess that Kristen would say that to believe so is very dangerous.

    I think that much more dangerous are our unconscious forces, fears,
    and beliefs, and the power of ignorance, greed, dominion, indiference,
    cruelty, and unconsciousness everywhere.

    Where do all these things come from? I’m not sure, but I could say,
    that without the need of reaching the very origin, we could say that
    they come from cultural/emotional patterns repeated time after time,
    century after century, millennina after millennia in a very deep,
    powerful and spreaded matrix.

    A cultural paradigm.

    And we can change it. Individually and collectively.

    This is what I believe.

    • mewabe

      We could also say that what we call “evil”, and the “devil” itself, come from judgment.

      Could African wild dogs that have been “educated” to judge still tear their preys apart and eat them alive, causing unbelievable terror and suffering? Would they be made to judge their own “horrific” nature and actions as well as all of nature, and to find life absolutely abhorrent and revolting, unbearable, and pray daily to be sent on a one way trip back to heaven asap, hating life and its conditions on this earth?

      Haven’t we essentially labelled hurt “evil”, and all that feels good “good”? Becoming more sophisticated with religions, haven’t we labelled all that feels good in the short run but realistically or supposedly hurts in the long run “evil”, and the reverse as well?

      In religion, haven’t we “progressed” to labeling whatever some authority decided run contrary to the interests of the group or of power and control over the group (by such authorities) “evil”, and punishable by damnation?

      Isn’t it this world view that propelled 19th century Christians to say that the wilderness was “the abode of the devil”, and to view all so called “primitive”, “uncivilized” people as living under the influence of the “devil”?

      Doesn’t “evil” simply boils down to this, ORIGINALLY labeling and JUDGING pain and imagining a great dispenser of pain called a “devil”, which collaborates with a “God” to “test” us, “tempt” and punish us for all eternity when we fail the test, as would an executioner?

      Isn’t then the origin of “evil” simply the judgment of pain? Isn’t this why many say that we cannot judge nature, because although it appears very cruel and unforgiving to the judging mind, if we do judge nature we come to the conclusion that all life is cruel and absurd, and question “God”, wondering why “he” would create a bunch of hungry tubes (digestive systems) with sharp teeth and claws that spend most of their time trying to eat each other, and most of their energies pursuing each other or escaping from each other? What is the sense of all this?

      There is no sense in judgment (literally speaking).

      When we judge pain, we hold it in fear and judgment, instead or releasing it. And it is then that pain becomes suffering, a semi-permanent state. The myth of a judging “God” condemning us to hell to meet Satan and be barbecued forever may represent our very own self-created process of judging our pains, our mistakes, fearing them, giving them, through fear, a power they do not really have over our lives, and condemning ourselves to a life of endless suffering by doing so. Our hell is indeed within, as is heaven.

      About objective truth versus created reality: my understanding is that there is no difference but for the difference between collective and individual experience. Even what we collectively perceive to be true, such as a sound, is created in a way, made real in our experience, through our common senses, in this case our ears. Without our ears, this sound would only be a wave of energy, a frequency, as is light, a tree, a mountain, water and all the galaxies, all that is seen, touch, heard and felt by the senses.

      We “decipher” and “translate” different waves of energy into “things”, experiences. Our collective “translations” are called objective, because of the physical senses we have in common as human beings. But the “objective” world is very different for a bee or a fly, or a bat, and a human being, and so it is still subjective by species, and still “created” by the senses and the brain that is attached to them, to a large extent.

      Miracles happen precisely when the “laws of nature”, of physically, are transcended, when “objective” reality is shattered, and something that goes way beyond what the physical senses and the brain that translates the information they supply into “facts” can comprehend.