A Voice in the Wilderness
COULD THESE 3 MESSAGES BE ALL THAT
WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORLD?

Editor’s Note: For the next several months this space will be used to explore — one-by-one — the messages, metaphysical principles, and spiritual meaning of the material found in the nearly 3,000 pages of the Conversations with God dialogues. This series of observations and interpretations is offered with my continuing disclaimer: I could be wrong about all of this.

CWG Explored/Installment #4: The three opening messages
The Conversations with God dialogue opens with a statement of singular importance. That statement: We are all One.

“All things are One Thing,” we are told. “There is only One Thing, and all things are part of the One Thing there is.”

We have spent considerable time exploring in this space the idea that Separation of anything from anything does not exist in the universe. Nevertheless, the idea that it does continues to persist.

I believe that this notion that we are Separate from each other and Separate from, or “other than,” the Essential Essence and the Foundational Energy of the cosmos (which some of us call God) creates the most “drag” on humanity’s evolutionary process. In other words, it slows down our forward movement toward becoming a civilized species more than any other single idea.

Right now we are not a “civilized” civilization. We are more advanced than we were several hundred or several thousand years ago, but we are not yet civilized.

No species that allows over 650 of its offspring to die every hour of starvation, and cannot find a way to stop it, can claim to be civilized.

No species that allows 20.9 million women and children to be bought and sold into commercial sexual servitude every year and cannot find a way to stop it can claim to be civilized.

No species that allows over 3 billion of its members to live on less than $2.50 a day, and billions to have no access to health care (some 19,000 children die each day from preventable health issues, such as malaria, diarrhea and pneumonia) and cannot find a way to change this can claim to be civilized.

No species that allows 1.7 billion of its members to live without any access to clean water, 1.6 billion (a quarter of humanity) to live without electricity, or 2.6 billion to exist without basic sanitation, and cannot find a way to improve these conditions — even after twenty centuries of trying — can claim to be civilized.

Evidence suggests that there must be something we do not fully understand here about Life — the understanding of which could change everything.

The first three messages of the Conversations with God dialogues offer us some suggestions along those lines. I believe they are, in fact, all that we need to create the life for which we all yearn. Following the initial message that we are all One are these two additional noticements:

— There’s enough.
— There’s nothing that you have to do.

The first of these points to the fact that there is a sufficiency on this planet of everything humanity needs for every member of the species to live a wonderful and joyful life. All we have to do is simply share. Yet it is our idea that there isn’t enough of what we all feel we need to be happy, and so we have created a global society that competes with itself and struggles against itself.

The second of these two points offers a new way of looking at the solution to our problems. It suggests that we end our emphasis on “doing” and place our emphasis on “being.”

When what we are doing in our world emerges from a new, from an expanded, from a higher, state of being, we will find ourselves meeting the challenges of physical life automatically — without us “having” (that is, being “required”) to do anything in particular.

The statement “There’s nothing that you have to do” does not mean that there is nothing that you will do as you live your life. It means that there is nothing that is demanded, commanded, or required of you. It invites a deeper exploration of the concept of allowing one’s personal “doingness” to proceed from one’s personal decision regarding how one chooses to “be” in the world, rather than the other way around.

Presently, many human beings “do” things because they think these are the “right things to do” if they wish to “be” kind, or “be” caring, or “be” loving. They do something in order to feel a certain way…rather than feeling a certain way before they do anything, and allowing what they do to emerge from that.

This may seem like nothing more than a play on words, but the messages of Conversations with God assure us that there is more here than meets the eye.

When we embody a particular and specific State of Being ahead of time — not in response to, but in creation of, an experience of Self — we generate outcomes in our life virtually without effort…and, most noticeably, nothing is left undone that would eliminate suffering in the life of any other member of our species.

The State of Being that CWG suggests that every human being embody is what it has called “divinity.” In other words, our highest selves, our grandest love, our greatest wisdom, our deepest compassion, and the embracing within us of all the other most wondrous aspects of our True Identity.

(No species that is being Divine and demonstrating Divinity by being compassionate, caring, and loving could allow the conditions noted above to exist for another 24 hours…much less another century.)

A person who walks through the world holding the Identity of Divinity deep within changes the exterior experience of everyone else everywhere she or he steps, every room he or she enters, every space she or he occupies.

If our entire species walked through this world holding such an identity deep within, it would produce Heaven on Earth.

The question is, what could cause our entire species to do so? And that will be the topic of our next entry here. Until then, Merry Christmas everyone! Have a wonderful holiday week, and Happy New Year!

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  • You know, I just thinking, what is the spiritual response to Trump?
    I contend lightheartedly but still with some seriousness, that the Hadron collider had an accident & created an alternate reality of which we now exist.

    Whether that is true or not, that’s what it feels like.

    Some feel Trump is what will shake up the system, break it down to rebuild what should truly be in place. Some that no matter who is president, the elite will still rule the day. Others, that the darker less healed aspects of our culture are coming to light & unless healed, we may, like Rome, fall.

    I came across the idea of thinking of being in the “United States of Enlightenment”. What a challenge of course, yet if we start asking on a regular basis, “What would an enlightened society, culture do?” It might invite more of that reality to come forth.

    CwG asks a similar question “What would love do?” I wonder if asking these two questions continually, maybe one or the other (or both) will catch on?

    As for “Beingness” mentioned above. I choose to be peace & let my decisions/actions come forth from that, however imperfectly or perfectly I demonstrate it.

    • AKA Patrick

      So what do the HEB’s Neale speaks of do? Certainly things that are far wiser than what we do. That is undoubtedly why they have survived the millions of years it takes to develop the forward thinking technology which permits them to travel the Universe as freely as they do.

      • I think all their actions are done through enlightenment. All HEB’s are enlightened, or they would not be HEB’s. That said, even HEB’s continue to evolve & even though enlightened, they can become even more enlightened. My thinking is, they can move in & out of physicality, different dimensions & have little or no need to reincarnate, since they live for hundreds & even thousands of years.

        My understanding is that they evolve beyond the need for sleep or food. I’m guessing then, that they evolve beyond the need for an unconscious, since they are always awake. Might be a good question to pose to Neale.

        • AKA Patrick

          A gentle, unforced evolution, not revolution, is what’s needed. We
          have been forcing things for too long. We need to
          Let Go, and Let God”. Some years ago, a man named Robert Monroe, dealt with his OOBE’s, which for him (and Man perhaps), are “revolutionary”. He realized though that was part of our “evolution”

          • Spiritual_Annie

            Hey, Patrick,

            Another definition for revolution comes from the root word–revolve. A revolution can be a turning away from one thing in order to focus on another thing. I like to keep that in mind when I think about turning away from old traditions and religious dogma so that I can face and focus on spirituality and the Divinity of all creation.

            Just a passing thought.

            Love and Blessings Always,
            ~Annie

          • AKA Patrick

            Agreed fully, Annie. I like “Let Go and Let God”. It says a lot. Simply means we release our Will to permit God’s Will to prevail. We give in, so God can give out (all His wonderful gifts for Humanity).

          • Jethro

            Let go and let God. How do I explain that to two woman that lost children, one of them my own? Did god do that? Did they let go and let God take their children? At what point do we not let go and let God? Was the gift taken away by an entity that also gives? The lord giveth, the lord taketh? Help me out with that please.

          • Patrick Gannon

            You know my thoughts on this, Jethro. $hit happens. It is almost certain that there are no gods or afterlives. All we can do is deal with what happens to us as best we can. Gods get the credit when things go well, but seldom get the blame when things go badly.

            New Age God (NAG) tells us that we select the bad things that happen to us, before we come, in order to grow or experience or remember, but there’s enough randomness in nature that we can be pretty confident that nothing of the sort actually happens. We can see the forces in nature and we know enough about them to know that there is no external influence in our affairs. How does something immaterial affect the physical things that make up our natural world? If this happened, we’d know it. We are born, we live, we die. What we get out of that is up to us, it seems to me.

            If there is a god, or gods, perhaps, in our case, it is the human genome. We are all part of it, thus we are all ONE, to that extent. It was here before we arrived and will be here after we die (with a little luck), and we will have contributed to it in various ways throughout our lives. Directly in the case of those who have offspring, and indirectly in our relationships with each other that affect the genome’s ongoing evolution. Evolving these “individuated units of consciousness” (us), must have provided a significant evolutionary advantage for our “god.” Sometimes evolutionary features become evolutionary roadblocks when the environment changes…. Evolution is all about fitness through natural selection in a particular environment. Maybe this trait is working against the genome now because there are too dang many of us – too many individuations – to deal with, and perhaps the genome needs to prune itself?

            Many researchers say that conscious awareness and free will are essentially illusions. That would make sense if the genome were the actual organism, and we were just it’s various parts working together as part of the whole. Evolving this sense of consciousness and free will must have provided some evolutionary benefit.

            Let go and let god, doesn’t seem to have worked out well for America. We began with the slogan “Out of Many, One,” but in the 50s we changed that to “In God We Trust.” I would propose that this trusting has not worked out all that well for us. I would propose that it is time to stop trusting God and go back to trying to trust each other. I think this may come through recognizing that in fact we are all ONE as part of the human genome, and that this is true in a very materialistic and fundamental way, while the whole “Essential Essence” NAG thing about some nebulous consciousness has almost nothing to support it. If, as unlikely as it seems, it turns out that consciousness is at the core, perhaps it actually organized itself as a genome, and not as individual humans with a real conscious awareness and free will.

            Others, like Neale, would tell us we simply trusted the wrong god. If we trust his god, then everything will be fine. Every religion tells us this, and we all know the outcome. Nature is going to do what nature is going to do, and no gods are going to intervene – they can’t unless they interact with particles, and if that happened, we’d already know it. I think we’re still lying to ourselves when we trust in something we have no real reason to think even exists, and I fail to see how that can be healthy in the long run.

          • Stephen mills

            Hi Patrick Neale said it is not the wrong God but the same God reinterpreted it’s been misunderstood so it’s not new. A new idea and understanding yes ,which understands God as life .So nature which is part of life which we are impacting upon ,will possibly counter adapt to make life functional to sustain itself .Humans are not necessarily part of this adaption.The more we understand about the way things work we can become the solution and not the problem.Believing in God/life can be useful in this regard but is not necessary. But having an understanding of the sacredness of life being in awe and wonder and being a steward of the planet has obvious benefits for the future of our species .

          • Patrick Gannon

            That is a complete redefinition of “God.” Yes, I know Neale wants to recreate what the word “god” means, as he does with a number of other words, but his saying so, doesn’t make it so. Over a billion people understand “god” to be Yahweh and another billion understand god to be “Allah” and close to a billion understand that to be Shiva, Vishnu and a number of other gods. NAG is different from all of them in practically all respects.

            As for the rest of your post, I largely agree…

          • Jethro

            $hit happens, yes! I’m closer to your train of thought than you think my friend.

          • Jethro

            We are all one in our basic core desires and needs which are one and the same. Food, shelter, sex. The separation is created in the illusion of everything else. We wish to be different from each other. We wish to be recognized as special, better than anyone else and at the very least accepted as equals. Each person produces an illusion that they feel gives them the recognition they desire. Positive recognition is all we live for beyond the necessities that sustain life. That’s because positive recognition has produced better food, stronger shelter, and desired sexual partners. That’s it. The end. So the game continues….

          • You need to go to CwG helping outreach .com

          • Jethro

            Marko, why do I need to go to cwg helping outreach .com?

          • I was responding to this: “How do I explain that to two woman that lost children, one of them my own? Did god do that? Did they let go and let God take their children?
            At what point do we not let go and let God? Was the gift taken away by an entity that also gives? The lord giveth, the lord taketh? Help me out with that please.”

            The CwG outreach is a place to get this answered.

          • Jethro

            It would answer it for “them”maybe. I don’t have a grief problem. It wouldn’t help me even a little bit. I said, how do “I” explain it to them. They have put the blame on god because people have cute little sayings like “the lord giveth but the lord taketh away, or, let go and let god. I know what you responded to. The last time you posted to me you thought I had a problem with perfection based on a comment stating that my life was not perfect. Is your life perfect? I don’t have a problem with perfection. But there are things that I would like to change insinuating that life is not perfect, so, is your life perfect? If not, do you have a problem with perfection?

            Marko, I know you mean well. Give me you. Give me your thoughts and experiences. See Annie’s post above? That’s human. That’s her. Don’t direct me to some site that you think will help. Share you if your experience applies. That’s god talking!

          • Let go & let God is more of allowing more possibilities than the few limited obsessive rigid ideas that you are currently holding onto.

            It’s opening uP to more possibilities. It’s allowing the rational mind to take a break & let a more non rational creative possibility be entertained.

            It’s not an excuse not to do anything, though sometimes not doing anything is exactly what is needed. It’s not a one size fits all answer to everything. It’s another tool to use in the art of living.

          • Spiritual_Annie

            Jethro,

            I certainly can’t pretend to know enough about the situations where those two souls were lost. All I can do is relate my own experiences and beliefs, hoping that it may lead to your own answers.

            I always wanted children. An entire brood of them, in fact, even more than the seven my mother had. When puberty hit, I had a very difficult time. Every month the pain was so bad that it could cause me to pass out. My mother took me to a gynecologist, at which point there was the first of many uncomfortable conversations with medical professionals. At first, I was accused of being sexually active. In front of my mother. When I was only 13 years old. In an ultra-conservative Roman Catholic family.

            My mother, I figured out later, had so much to deal with when it came to my father, who she was married to for 18 years, that she blocked large portions of her memories of what he did to her and us kids. It was simply more than she could handle. She didn’t remember that my father had started to sexually abuse me by at least the age of four through the age of ten. I had to tell her, minimizing as much as possible, that my father had “done things to me down there,” which is why it appeared I wasn’t a virgin.

            Jumping ahead to when I was 18, I sought out more answers for the problems I continued to have. That’s when I had a more thorough exam and another awkward conversation. I was told that there was so much damage and scar tissue that I wouldn’t be able to conceive. Even if, by some miracle, I did conceive, my only hope of carrying to term would be to stay bedridden and have a C-section.

            Then, when I was 21, I was date raped. And the miracle happened. I had to think and pray long and hard about whether or not to have the child. While I could certainly understand why some women sought out abortions, I decided it wasn’t for me. Instead, I decided to have the child and give it up for adoption because I feared I wouldn’t be able to let go of the emotions about how it was conceived. No sooner than I made the decision, I miscarried. It turned out to be my only pregnancy.

            But then when I was in my early 30’s, I started seeing a man who was separated from his wife while they waited for the court date for their divorce. He had an eight years old son, and she was pregnant by her boyfriend. Because they were still legally married, and because she didn’t trust her boyfriend to stick around, the man I was seeing was named as the baby’s father on the birth certificate. She was a woman with no maternal instincts who had never wanted children, so when she left the hospital, I pretty much had both boys full time. It felt like another miracle.

            I found, over time, that I was involved with a binge alcoholic who was abusive when he drank. He was also a Vietnam vet who had flashbacks and couldn’t tell who was friend or foe. And, to top it all off, the boys’ mother started to get pressured by her boyfriend and her family to spend more time with the boys because I was making her look bad. Neither one wanted to spend time with her, so it became a battle whenever she’d insist. The final straw was when my partner got three DWI’s in two months and the boys’ mother showed up to keep the boys for the weekend, with the youngest having to literally be ripped from my arms while screaming “no Mama Mary” over and over. I left the next day.

            Where does Divinity fit into all of that? I believe that my Soul incarnated into this particular life for the purpose of being unconditional love and compassion. In order to do that, I needed to experience the opposite, which I did with my father. My miscarriage was most likely caused by the fetus simply dissolving as only pieces of tissue were found. The exams and D&C provided physical proof of the abuse, which my father always tried to get me to doubt. If I had stayed pregnant, I would have lost my job because I would have had to be bedridden. I would not have broken through the glass ceilings when I was regularly promoted into positions not previously held by women. I would have had to deal with the pain of giving up the child, which I believe would have been more difficult than the miscarriage. Because I miscarried, my doctor found cervical warts at a follow-up exam, which are prone to become malignant if not caught in time. I had to walk away from my stepsons, which broke me so badly that I ended up in the therapy that turned my entire life around.

            It’s because of situations like those that I no longer call anything good or bad because I can’t be sure of the ultimate outcome. I might not be the loving, compassionate person I am today, fighting for women’s rights and helping others who have experienced abuse, if any of those events had not happened.

            Love and Blessings Always,
            ~Annie

          • Jethro

            It’s every experience we’ve ever had that molds us into who we are today. Our experiences make us as different as night and day. The out come of our thoughts about all those experiences make us more alike than we can imagine.

            I’m sorry that you’ve had to live through such trauma. I was sexually abused by a man as was my brother. I did not have to endure the physical torment or the results of your abuse. It can be torment up to the point we let it be, then it can be as much as a relief when we let it go. We cannot change what has happened, only how we feel about it.

            When I posted the above message to aka Patrick, it wasn’t about the death of those children. It’s about giving to much responsibility to god. It’s about not taking the responsibility to figure things out, or give the wisdom so many people need today. Let go and let God? No. God, grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change. I’ll go with that. I feel the energy of life you speak of so often. It’s wonderful! Lately I have been troubled with being so busy with work. I’m going to court for child support and will be facing off with the IRS over taxes soon. I’ve nothing against aka Patrick, I’m even sorry for being so petty. I just believe there are to many sayings out there that release us of responsibility. We need to deal with things, we need to learn how, we need to teach the children how to deal with it!

            I have found peace with many things in my past. I’m still a little angry with my parents even though it’s ancient history. It’s been thirty years for goodness sake. Still feels like yesterday sometimes and you know what I mean. I agree with Mr gannon on many things but I need a higher power in my life still. I need a god. Neales God, which was my God to me first, works ok at the moment. I don’t respond to your messages but they are important, as are Patrick’s, Mewabe makes a lot of sense in line with my own beliefs. How could so many different beliefs be good? It’s god talking. Through each and and every person. Right? It’s all god.

            Your quite a wonderful person! Never forget that! As always as you say…

            Love and blessings…. to all!

            It midnight here… happy new year!

          • Spiritual_Annie

            Jethro,

            I certainly can’t pretend to know enough about the situations where those two souls were lost. All I can do is relate my own experiences and beliefs, hoping that it may lead to your own answers.

            I always wanted children. An entire brood of them, in fact, even more than the seven my mother had. When puberty hit, I had a very difficult time. Every month the pain was so bad that it could cause me to pass out. My mother took me to a gynecologist, at which point there was the first of many uncomfortable conversations with medical professionals. At first, I was accused of being sexually active. In front of my mother. When I was only 13 years old. In an ultra-conservative Roman Catholic family.

            My mother, I figured out later, had so much to deal with when it came to my father, who she was married to for 18 years, that she blocked large portions of her memories of what he did to her and us kids. It was simply more than she could handle. She didn’t remember that my father had started to sexually abuse me by at least the age of four through the age of ten. I had to tell her, minimizing as much as possible, that my father had “done things to me down there,” which is why it appeared I wasn’t a virgin.

            Jumping ahead to when I was 18 and still having problems, I sought out more answers for the problems I continued to have. That’s when I had a more thorough exam and another awkward conversation. I was told that there was so much damage and scar tissue that I wouldn’t be able to conceive. Even if, by some miracle, I did conceive, my only hope of carrying to term would be to stay bedridden and have a C-section.

            Then, when I was 21, I was date raped. And the miracle happened. I had to think and pray long and hard about whether or not to have the child. While I could certainly understand why some women sought out abortions, I decided it wasn’t for me. Instead, I decided to have the child and give it up for adoption because I feared I wouldn’t be able to let go of the emotions about how it was conceived. No sooner than I made the decision, I miscarried. It turned out to be my only pregnancy.

            But then when I was in my early 30’s, I started seeing a man who was separated from his wife while they waited for the court date for their divorce. He had an eight years old son, and she was pregnant by her boyfriend. Because they were still legally married, and because she didn’t trust her boyfriend to stick around, the man I was seeing was named as the baby’s father on the birth certificate. She was a woman with no maternal instincts who had never
            wanted children, so when she left the hospital, I pretty much had both boys full time. It felt like another miracle.

            I found, over time, that I was involved with a binge alcoholic who was abusive when he drank. He was also a Vietnam vet who had flashbacks and couldn’t tell who was friend or foe. And, to top it all off, the boys’ mother started to get pressured by her boyfriend and her family to spend more time with the boys because I was making her look bad. Neither one wanted to spend time with her, so it became a battle whenever she’d insist. The final straw was when my partner got three DWI’s in two months and the boys’ mother showed up to keep the boys for the weekend, with the youngest having to literally be ripped from my arms while screaming “no Mama Mary” over and over. I left the next day.

            Where does Divinity fit into all of that? I believe that my Soul incarnated into this particular life for the purpose of being unconditional love and compassion. In order to do that, I needed to experience the opposite, which I did with my father. My miscarriage was most likely caused by the fetus simply dissolving as only pieces of tissue were found. The exams and D&C provided physical proof of the abuse, which my father always tried to get me to doubt. If I had stayed pregnant, I would have lost my job because I would have had to be bedridden. I would not have broken through the glass ceilings when I was regularly promoted into positions not previously held by women. I would have had to deal with the pain of giving up the child, which I believe would have been more difficult than the miscarriage. Because I miscarried, my doctor found cervical warts at a follow-up exam, which are prone to become malignant if not caught in time. I had to walk away from my stepsons, which broke me so badly that I ended up in the therapy that turned my entire life around.

            It’s because of situations like those that I no longer call anything good or bad because I can’t be sure of the ultimate outcome. I might not be the loving, compassionate person I am today, fighting for women’s rights and helping others who have experienced abuse, if any of those events had not happened.

            Love and Blessings Always,
            ~Annie

          • Jethro

            Hi AKA Patrick, I wish to apologize if this reply below made you uncomfortable. It was a reply not to you personally, but to my own thoughts on some of the sayings that people abuse at times to bring comfort. My timing was inappropriate.

  • Spiritual_Annie

    I’ve already addressed my thoughts and ideas about Oneness in the previous installments. In short, I think there is a creative energy, appearing to me as intelligent and/or containing information, that underlies the basic building blocks of all creation. Those building blocks have been theorized but are as yet unproven, which means there cannot yet be any study of that creative energy, which I call Divinity or God. I have, however, come into contact with this Divinity through meditation, near death experiences, premonitions and sudden knowings, among other experiences.

    I rely on the second of the three opening statements on a daily basis. Regardless of my circumstances, I know that there will be enough for Biscuit and myself each and every day. How do I know this? Because he and I are still here, now. And that’s no small thing.

    I just turned 57 recently. That means that for 57 years, or 684 months, or 2,964 weeks, or 20,805 days (not counting leap years), or 499,320 hours, or 29,959,200 minutes, or 1,797,552,000 seconds, give or take, I have had enough of what I needed to continue to live. Why, then, would I question that there would not be enough in the next moment or minute or hour or day?

    That’s not to say that I haven’t had to do my part in going out to find what it is that we need. If all I were to do is stay in my home, expecting what I need to come to me, I would quickly find out that we’re lacking. But my animal loving neighbor has donated enough food for Biscuit to last until the next check. I searched the Internet, made phone calls and got in touch with my case manager to pick up food from local pantries. I empty the local business ashtrays of their “snipes” so that I can use the tobacco to roll my own cigarettes. (I’ve tried every means of quitting and none have worked. It is my final vice.) l wash my clothes in the sink with the samples of shampoo picked up from the motels we stayed in when first homeless.

    Every time I go to a food pantry, when I get home I go through what I’ve been given and give away to my neighbors the things I can’t or won’t eat. Christie’s clothes and excess household items are being donated to local thrift stores that provide vouchers for people in need. If I have a pack of cigarettes, I share them with those who have none. I turn out the lights in every room when I leave it. I don’t leave the water running when I’m doing the dishes. Yes, those lower my bills, but also provide what I don’t waste for others to have.

    But that’s all on a personal level. On a local or state or country or global level, it appears that there isn’t enough, as Neale so heartwrenchingly points out with the statistics in his column. I believe that it is about appearances. The problem, as I see it, is that in a competitive and fear-driven world, some believe it’s appropriate to hold onto more than what they need. People hoard money. People waste food, or demand such a high price for food, shelter, clothing, water, electricity and sanitation that they are out of reach for a very large part of us. Greed causes corporations to put at risk some of our basic needs, like clean water to drink and land to grow food and air to breathe.

    If those who have many times over what they need would share just a portion of what they have, many lives would be saved. If those who are so proficient at finding tax loopholes instead paid their fair share, many lives would be saved through the services that could be provided, instead of Medicare being put on the budget chopping block every fiscal year. If lobbyists didn’t pressure the government, and if government representatives didn’t fund unnecessary pet projects, many lives would be saved in the same manner.

    Which leads me to the third of the statements. As I see it, many people are living as less than they can be. Somehow, somewhere, someone gave them the message that they are not all of who they could be, much less who they are. That they shouldn’t strive to be more. That they should stifle their individuality, which may be the very thing another needs. That they shouldn’t listen to that still, small voice they hear, nudging them to believe they are more. That they should care only about those who are like themselves and close their hearts to those who are different.

    If even a large minority of us had compassion for all of creation because all is One at the Source, the world would change drastically.

    If even a large minority of us understood that there is enough for everyone if we would but share a portion of what we have, the world would change drastically.

    If even a large minority of us understood that living as the grandest version of the greatest vision of who they can be, much less who they are, would provide them with peace, joy and love regardless of what they do, the world would change drastically.

    We are at the time and place, here and now, where drastic changes are necessary.

    Love and Blessings Always,
    ~Annie

    • AKA Patrick

      Try 80 plus years. A gentleman 3 years my senior (83), told me at work the other day, that anyone such as us who has survived that long has to be fantastically lucky, with which I wholeheartedly agree.

  • Mateia Andrei (A true friend)

    One question for you Neale and your God and I quote CwG book 1 (1996).
    “God:There is nothing you cannot be, there is nothing you cannot do. There is nothing you cannot have.
    Neale: That sounds like a pie-in-the-sky promise.
    God:What other kind of promise would you have God make? Would you believe Me if I promised you less?”

    Where is my is my machine and how do I activate it?

  • Stephen mills

    You said in CWG book 2 that what may work is a new geopolitical solution …a government for our world and the resources naturally shared in response to this .This obviously would not solve all the problems as the ultimate change is Spiritual.However it brings the nations that are seperate together and that’s progress. A unified world federation as stated in this book would produce many benefits for the family of humans.

    It was 1997 when this book came out it still seems we are a long way from this outcome .Some say this would be a negative with a fascist style world elite republic controlling the masses . But as also stated a similar experiment has worked in the United States of America so we have at least a model !

    It does feel though that this will be a natural outcome as Humanity hits the limits of growth and Mother Nature says enough .We must stand together or we shall fall apart.What in your eyes is holding us back from creating such a world unifying government.Is it the military industrial complex ,greed and egos of some of the actors on the world stage ?

    • Spiritual_Annie

      Stephen,

      As I see it, part of the problem is that the military-industrial-banking-oil complex is the power behind the powers-that-be. Greed and power are addicting, as are living in a condition where any whim or desire can be had. Those involved are so far removed from how the rest of us live that they simply don’t see or comprehend it.

      I’ve long thought that anyone who represents the people ought to be required to live in public housing, with their families, on Medicare and food stamps for at least a few months to awaken them to how they are causing some of us to live. I now think the same should be done by those at the top levels of that complex of power that runs everything behind the scenes.

      I recognize it’s a pipe dream, but I’m not sure what else might open their eyes and their hearts.

      Love and Blessings Always,
      ~Annie

      • Jethro

        Even I have looked at those struggling and wondered why they wouldn’t do more for themselves. Then I became the one who struggled. It’s hard. I’m pulling myself up, but it seems there is always something waiting to pull me back down. It’s frustrating!! It’s one thing to try and succeed as young adults playing “the game” but it’s not so easy in your forties or fifties. Time is short and bodies are tired. Only those who experience it will understand.

        • Spiritual_Annie

          Jethro,

          If you haven’t already seen me post it elsewhere, I’m on disability. The conditions are multiple, but there are three causes. The first is that I was born with birth defects in my legs and so my ankles, knees and hips didn’t develop properly as my legs were in casts, then braces, until I was six. The second is that my father was abusive beyond what most can imagine and there was permanent physical damage done, especially to some of my growth plates, as well as emotional damage. The third is that the career I fell into but loved was as a Civil Engineering Tech for the public works departments at local government agencies. Mostly that involved road and sewer construction inspection, jumping in and out of trenches, hauling around 10 gal buckets of backfill and always being on my feet. When I could no longer handle the field work, I was given a desk job. When I could no longer sit and fight the pain, I had to quit working.

          There is a point to all that history. Despite the fact I spend most of my time laying down, I look perfectly normal. When I still drove, I was regularly given dirty looks and even accosted when I parked in handicapped spaces. When I use motorized shopping carts, I get the same. Even one of my own sisters said I am “just lazy and crazy.” I have “picked myself back up” many times, the most recent challenge having been homeless and then very shortly after finding a home, having my best friend and roommate pass over. I call myself a “Riser” rather than a “Survivor” because between me, the things I’ve learned and the people who have come into my life, I always get back up.

          The most important lessons I’ve learned in my 57 years is that everyone struggles with challenges, and that we have a choice in how we deal with them. We can either choose to stay in suffering, or we can choose to be the grandest version of the greatest vision ever we have of Who We Are, which ends the suffering. The understanding that we all struggle with challenges has given me such a deep compassion for all people everywhere. Our circumstances are all unique, but the fact that we all face challenges, suffer and struggle are universal. The Divine Energy that created and is part of all creation is also universal.

          Do I get tired of the challenges? Of course I do. Do I still feel pain every day? Yep, but I don’t suffer from it anymore. Do I worry about my future? You bet, but not nearly as often as I used to. Do I feel sorry for myself? Rarely.

          When I get tired or hurt or worry or feel sorry for myself, I know now that I can quiet myself and go inside, even if just for a moment, and connect with Source that calms me, lessens my pain, and often provides inspiration. It refreshes and rejuvenates me. It takes me out of my body and mind, and connects me with Divine Energy.

          That’s become my own definition of success.

          Love and Blessings Always,
          ~Annie

          • 🙂

          • Jethro

            Hi Annie, Thanks for sharing that part of you. I have read your posts stating your hardships. As a plumber who has hand dug every waterline and sewer line I ever replaced I can relate to damages of the job, it was the 15 foot fall onto a rock just under the water of a small dam I was fishing on that haunts me these days. I thought I healed. It’s creeping back and walking, or setting, or getting up, or getting down…. you know the story lol. It hurts. It requires a lot of looking on the bright side, or knowing it could be worse. I’m able to do all that I do without pain killers. I’m afraid to take them recognizing I have a history of substance abuse. Why chance it if I can endure. No self pity here either, pushing on. It’s self inflicted anyway.

            It takes someone who knows, to know. Keeping the right mind is the key to keeping on. So keep on keeping on! Here’s to success!

            Love and blessings

          • Spiritual_Annie

            And you say you don’t have a way with words!

            Always,
            ~Annie

    • mewabe

      Whenever two or more humans gather, it almost always ends up with one of them wanting to dominate and control the others.

      When we want to understand humanity, all we need to do is look at the behaviors of wild animals. We think we are different and better, but we are actually better in some respects and much worse in others, and overall very similar.

      So we have “alpha” humans dominating, controlling and exploiting the “beta” masses. Neale proposes that all of this originates in a concept of separation. This is not a new perspective and It makes sense to a large degree, but I think that the concept of separation itself originates in primitive, competitive instinctual drives which are identical to those of animals.

      And if this is accurate, then we might not evolve fast enough to stop ourselves from destroying this planet.

      I apologize for being as a wet blanket about this, but sometimes hopelessness is the price of the acknowledgment of the truth.

      In the meantime, those of us who have the ability can still celebrate love and beauty while they last, and testify that there is more to life than mere physical survival.

      • AKA Patrick

        We already ARE ONE! Self-governance is the ideal! One drawback to the internet (and TV for that matter)is the idea of “icons”. We speak (rather sickeningly) of icons as if they were ideal! They’re NOT! Far from it! In older spiritual writings, icons and images are described or defined as empty and meaningless. And I wholly concur.

        • mewabe

          “Self-governance is the ideal!”
          Amen!

    • AKA Patrick

      A resounding “YES”! Greed, ego, and all the above.

    • Jethro

      It’s beliefs.

    • AKA Patrick

      Yes—All the above.

    • TrevorD

      “actors on the world stage`
      Yes but more to the point are the worrying `entities` writing the scripts for the actors.

  • NealeDonaldWalsch

    Merry Christmas everyone. I have posted a Christmas Message at my Facebook page… and here it is for you to read, if you wish…

    Today is a day that millions around the world celebrate in a way that honors the message of Christmas as it lives in our hearts. I’m going to ask your permission for me to be just a little more personal in my message on this day than I have been in the past.

    I had an interesting experience about seven weeks ago that brought some things to light for me in a new way — in a far more impactful way — than ever before, and the thought struck me that there might be some value in my sharing with you here something that I’ve come to more deeply experience and understand.

    On Nov. first I underwent open-heart surgery. It was a quintuple by-pass, and the doctors said that I tolerated the procedure well, and have moved thru my recovery extraordinarily well.

    For all of this I’m grateful. But let me share with you what I have come to understand in a new way — first hand — as a result of what I experienced.

    There’s nothing like having your heart stopped for 4 hrs, and its function performed by a machine across the room, to bring home in a very physical way, a very metaphysical message: You are not your body.

    I’ve gotten very clear since Nov. 1st that my body is something that I HAVE, it is not something I am.

    Of course, I have held it as my “truth” for years that — at my basis — I am not really a physical entity, but a spiritual entity engaging in a physical experience. But I have to tell you that I never translated that awareness into very real, here-and-now terms until I woke up after my surgery.

    It was then that I understood empirically that my body is a mechanism — a tool used by the Essence of Who I Am to move forward its agenda. And that led me to some very deep thinking.

    What is my agenda?

    That is, what is the agenda of my Soul — quite exclusive of the agenda of my Body or my Mind? Because my Body and my Mind presumably HAD no “agenda” when my heart stopped beating for several hours and its work was being done by a machine several feet away.

    That machine had no agenda. It was not conscious at any level. And if THAT machine had no agenda, then THIS machine (meaning, my body) has no agenda, either. They’re both just devices, designed to produce functionality in the physical world in order for the metaphysical part of me to do what it came here to do.

    Yet what is THAT? And is anything that I’ve just said real? Or am I mistaken about all of this?

    Believe it or not, 20 years after the Conversations with God experience, I still ask myself those questions.

    I’ve been asked by interviewers over the years if I ever doubt my experience or the messages it has produced, and I’ve said the same thing to every person who has posed that question: “The day that I stop doubting is the day that I become dangerous… and I have no intention of becoming dangerous.”

    Well, I may not be “dangerous” today, but I am more sure now than ever — as a result of my recent mechanical “overhaul” — that Who I Really Am exists, whether my body is functioning on its own or not. And Who I Am, exclusive of my Body or my Mind, DOES have an agenda. It is the same agenda of every spiritual entity in the cosmos — and of the Spiritual Essence from which everything has emerged.

    It is my understanding that the whole universe, the entire cosmos in each of its dimensions, is filled with sentient beings, each imbued with the exact same desire — the desire to express and experience its True Nature and its True Identity.

    If you look at every decision you have ever made…whether it was to take that job, or move to that city, or marry that person, or whatever it was…all of your choices, big and small, have been aimed at generating the same outcome: a direct experience of the best that life has to offer. Which is another way of saying, a direct experience of one word: Love.

    For Love IS the “best that life has to offer. This much we know. This much we’ve all learned. Or, more correctly, this much we’ve all remembered. Because we all knew it as infants. We knew it when we came in. We’ve just had to remember it as we’ve grown older.

    It’s our True Nature that we are remembering…and somewhere deep inside of us, we know that. We know that this is Who We Really Are.

    That is the message of this day. My body is a mechanism, a tool, comprised of, containing, and designed to express and experience, the Essential Essence from which it emerged. And that Essential Essence is love.

    This Body was made — we are all made — to love. Plain and simply, unlimitedly and unconditionally. And through this particular expression of Self, to know, experientially, Who We Really Are.

    Today is one of those moments in humanity’s annual calendar when we stop everything else that we’re doing — all that we think is so important and so vital to our future — and return once more to the only thing that we came here to do: simply look at each other, look at ourselves, and love. And to expand, expand, and EXPAND in our ability to do that…until there is nothing else that we ever do…EVER

    All of us here understand that this message is not limited to the essence of the Christian doctrine — hallowed and holy as that is to billions. This message transcends all religions, all believe systems, all spiritual paradigms, driving to the core of the human condition, and to the heart of the human experience — and able to heal both.

    Both are now in need of healing, for sure — perhaps now more than ever in recent memory.

    No one has to tell us that this has been a difficult year. The political machinations of the past 12 months — and the devastating physical violence that has been created by humanity and visited people’s lives across the planet — has awakened us to our own scary awareness of humanity’s often less-than-loving nature.

    Our world has been divided right before our eyes, and so many of us are now searching, perhaps more earnestly than ever before, to find a way to create a global community where our differences do not create divisions, our contrasts do not generate conflicts, and the variations in our beliefs do not produce violence in our lives.

    We are beginning to earnestly seek to really create what we say on our greeting cards: “peace on Earth, and goodwill to men, women, and children everywhere.”

    In a sense, we have ALL undergone open-heart surgery this past year. For there are very few among us who have not felt as if we have been opened right down the middle by events both in our personal lives, and in our collective national and global experience.

    Thankfully, we have moments like Christmas Day to help to heal that rending. Moments when the message at the heart of all the world’s great religions is separated from each religion’s specific dogma, and is reduced to its simplest form — inviting humanity to address at last the simplest question: Can we all just find a way to love one another?

    The answer that moments like this bring us is, yes. We can find a way to love each other. We can find a way to share with each other in a way that demonstrates our love. And we can find a way to create equality with each other, regardless of the color of our skin, our gender, or our sexual orientation.

    We can find a way to be kind to each other, and tolerant of each other, regardless of differences in our political or spiritual beliefs.

    All we have to do is use our body, this tool we have been given, in a new way; to move through the world as the grandest version of ourselves; to become the healers, not the patient, in our own open-heart surgery, by-passing any blockages to the fullest expression of our most natural selves.

    We are capable — as a species, and as individuals — of loving without condition. This is what the man whose birth we celebrate today showed us.

    That man was graced to live in such a way that the possibility of Divinity expressing through humanity can never again be denied.

    But it is important to see Christmas does not point to greatness achievable by only one person. We should not allow ourselves to be convinced that only one person in the history of humanity was capable of such things.

    I am reminded of what was said by the very person whose life we celebrate today: “Why are you so amazed? These things and more shall you do also.”

    The message of this day, then, is that we are all given the same level of grace. We are all imbued with the ability to demonstrate Divinity through our Humanity. Jesus devoted his life to showing us that possibility, but he is not the only one to have done so.

    Others, both before and after him; others, both male and female; others, both dark skinned and light skinned, Eastern and Western, known and unknown, have likewise used their lives to show us all that we can live in a way which demonstrates our true identity, by demonstrating for us all the highest possibility of every human.

    Not everyone has done it at the same level of perfection, but many have nonetheless shown us magnificent aspects of being human.

    And WE have likewise shown it to others.

    Yes, all of us have had what I call Moments of Magnificence, times when we expressed our Truest Selves in the fullest way, times when we were there for another, times when we touched the lives of even strangers in such a way that their faith in humanity, and their faith in themselves, was restored.

    So let’s use this day to refresh our memory and renew our clarity about not just Jesus, but about ourselves. We are, each of us, wonderful. And we have, each of us, been wonderful, and acted divinely, in our lives. And there is not a one of us who does not try to be our Best Self in every moment.

    This is our challenge, of course. This is the process that we call Evolution. And part of this process is the open-heart surgery that the Whole of Humanity has been undergoing.

    So I see my own encounter with life last month as a metaphor for what’s happening with all of us during these days and times. And here is what this metaphor has shown me: What is occurring now is not an ending, but a new beginning. This is not an injury to the Body Human, but the start of our individual and collective healing.

    Sometimes it takes what looks like an “injury” to instigate and promote healing, and to get our full recovery underway. And today I can tell you that our recovery IS underway.

    Not only our recovery from the divisions in the world that have been created in these most recent times, but our recovery from the decades and centuries of behaviors that have led us to this place today, where we are seeing more vividly than ever before exactly what we as a species are doing to ourselves.

    You can’t fix what you don’t see. You can’t “make better” what you don’t know is there. So when ugliness rises to the surface, when fear seeps through the lining of our armor, notice that it is the result of light having shined upon the darkness.

    And so this is not a time for despair, but for repair.

    And we have just the tool with which to undertake that repair. It is the promise of this day. It is the feeling that this special time imbues within us. It is the life and events of which this day reminds us.

    All of this — if we capture the essence of this day in our hearts, and hold it there — can connect us in the most joyful way to the knowing that Divinity can be expressed by all of us. And it does not have to involve us individually and directly in what we define as “big, world-impacting, events.”

    In fact, Divinity is often best expressed in the smallest ways. In the thoughts we think, in the words we speak, in the choices we make every hour of every day. Each of us brings Divinity to Humanity through the simple device of how we are being with each other. (And, by the way, with ourselves.)

    Thus, how all of us choose to BE is a “world impacting event” that can change the events that impact the world.

    Christmas reminds us of that. It allows us — gives us permission — to express our most wonderful selves easily. We say to everyone: “Merry Christmas!” We wish perfect strangers — we actually TALK to perfect strangers — and we wish them “happy holidays.” We sit down with loved ones and spend precious time together — again — the way we did long ago, far more often.

    We experience being family again.

    We share gifts with each other, and it doesn’t even matter what they are, for it is in the giving of them and in the receiving of them — whatever they are — that our love for each other is announced and declared, demonstrated and embraced, once more.

    And what is most wonderful about this special time is the knowing that doesn’t have to end when this day is done. The love and the warmth we feel today can and will continue to be sent into the world by us, if we decide to a source of it.

    Author M. Scott Peck wrote in his book, The Road Less Traveled, something worthy of taking note. He said, “Love is not a reaction, it’s a decision.”

    It is because this is true that the highest possibilities for humanity still exist. When I know that love is not my response to something that you are doing, but my choice regarding something I am doing, the highest possibilities continue to exist.

    Because this is true, one single person CAN impact the world. One single person CAN be the First Domino. One single person CAN set the tone for others to follow. The question is not whether one person CAN . . . but where any one person WILL.

    And that, it seems to me, is where the magic of this day can play its effect. The magical feeling of this moment can magically transform each of us into that One. Single. Person.

    Each of us can be the one who chooses to carry forward, into all the days of the coming New Year, the magic of Love Itself — unbridled, unlimited, unconditional — as a personal expression of our True Identity.

    We can make every day Christmas Day by making, every day, the declaration that Christmas invites us to embrace: That we will endeavor to use each of the moments of each of our lives to bring “joy to the world.”

    I humbly invite us all to re-double our efforts to do so. I know that none of us is perfect. But I know that this day will carry a special meaning if we use this moment to commit to doing better than we’ve ever done before.

    What a way to turn this into one of the best Christmases ever…by giving the gift of You, at your very best, to the world.

    Merry Christmas, everyone!

    • Jethro

      Merry Christmas!

    • AKA Patrick

      Merry Christmas to you, Neale, and “Happy Healing” (physically). What you speak of, (commitment) is what I’ve been doing since 2003 (May 18,) when my foreign student friend was required to go home. Since then my impact has been to advocate for him and now for his young family as well. (On Skype, I tell his children “When I look into your eyes, I see God”). I’ve been doing that for some time now. And I love it, because I love them. And Merry Christmas to all my holy, sacred brothers and sisters in the world, wherever you are!

    • Merry Xmas Neale.

      The body, now that’s a subject for several explorations to discuss! I mean we are never without it. It’s the very vehicle we use to live in physicality & experience it. Only one per lifetime. You can’t get a new & improved version (yet!) We can treat it with respect, positive thoughts, exercise & good diet & it can often still be problematic.

      The mind body connection is still in it’s infancy. We don’t have near the control we’d love to have. We still have to go to doctors, sometimes even surgery like your recent profound experience. From an HEB standpoint we are far from obtaining anything close to perfect health, especially as we age, which is a whole other body issue.

      I admit I feel lucky when I walk around this world with no aches & pains or mental anguish. This should be the norm & yet it isn’t. Yes we can treat the body poorly & pay the price, but it can be difficult being in such a primitive collective which also has a profound impact on the body. The collective idea of the body also has it’s deep effect on us & it’s not usually a good one.

      Thankfully, we have tools to help us respond to the immense challenges we face regarding the body.

  • Jethro

    The seven deadly sins or the rules we’ve learned to live by.

    1) Envy = the desire to have an item or experience that someone else possesses.
    We all want more than we have. We’ve don’t know the meaning of success. Never
    satisfied.
    2) Gluttony = excessive ongoing consumption of food or drink.
    It’s not just food or drink we consume excessively. We’re consuming the earth to
    death. Never satisfied
    3) Greed or Avarice = an excessive pursuit of material possessions.
    The things we have are never enough. We compete not only with others but
    ourselves to make more and have more than we need. Never satisfied.
    4) Lust = an uncontrollable passion or longing, especially for sexual desires.
    Every morning on the news I see a few new cases of sexual assault. A desire for sex
    conducts relationships rather than the pursuit of a life partner of like mind. Never
    satisfied
    5) Pride = excessive view of one’s self without regard to others.
    We don’t want help. We can do it all ourselves. We’ve lost the need for each other.
    6) Sloth = excessive laziness or the failure to act and utilize one’s talents.
    How many times a day do we see something needing to be done, but later is better.
    7) Wrath = uncontrollable feelings of anger and hate towards another person.
    Everyone seems to be angry at each other. Angry at the powers, Angry at beliefs,
    angry because of most of the seven deadly sins and never experiencing satisfaction.

    Love for self and others is the only cure. Know you have what you need and give the things you don’t need to those who do need it. Without profit, without feeling like your losing, it’s a win when we help another.

    • Stephen mills

      And the most amazing thing is that what makes us the happiest …the feeling of giving without the need for anything in return. The Native American Indians where taught to give away there most prized possessions when young . So not to have attachments to material things .

      • Jethro

        Sounds like a custom we should bring back. After all, what we teach are children defines the adults in every generation.

        Thank you Stephen.

  • Rusty Pumpkin

    Hello, dear friends,

    I thought I would share some random holiday thoughts around this theme. In my view, there is only God, so as Neale says, all things are One Thing, viz., God. Let me share my own little “conversation” I had with God so many years ago as a teenager, one Christmas Day in the mid-’70s. It was probably the most amazing day of my life, although there are a few others in the running, too. The “conversation” was pretty sparse, actually, but here goes. God, in the form of Jesus appearing in my mind’s eye, asked me out of the blue if I wanted to know how much He loved me. Now, I can’t imagine who would say no to that, particularly on Xmas, so I said sure, why not, despite being an atheist at the time. The next thing I knew, I was suddenly enveloped in the most pure love that I’ve felt – it far, far surpassed any human love, it was unconditional, pure love and it was ineffable, far beyond description. I began to cry, feeling that I didn’t deserve this magnificent experience, I asked God why he didn’t show this to somebody who believed in Him more than I did, I wasn’t worthy. Still, the love just kept on flowing over me. He didn’t answer me, but it seemed none of what I asked actually mattered or it just wasn’t relevant to what was happening. I looked at nature, at myself, and I believed I was seeing the world through the eyes of God. Everything was absolutely, utterly perfect, just as it was. If anything were to change even one iota, it would have shattered the divine perfection of everything. There was no “devil” or “evil” at all. It seemed to me as if the whole world were a kind of hologram, vibrating and shimmering, not actually solid, but a kind of mirage – and the mirage was made of god-stuff. Creation was all pure God, nothing more. I thought of the Vedic notion of Maya to describe the world, an illusion where the reality is something different altogether. There was only one “thing” or vibration – and it was beautiful beyond description. This experience went on for some time, until I said, “Thank you, I’ve seen enough,” and it all suddenly stopped and I saw the world as myself again, but I had to abandon atheism for good. Up to that point in my life, I hadn’t really experienced all that much loving kindness, so that day was just a gift of indescribable value for which I am eternally grateful. I’ve since had a few more “conversations” where we had a little more verbal exchange, but that day started it off for me.

    As I read the various posts in response to this blog topic, it brings me back to that day. Until we all see the world more as I saw it that day, we’ll continue down the destructive path we’re on. As Neale has said, 98% of us spend 98% of our time doing things that just don’t matter a whit. While I couldn’t agree more, I certainly place myself squarely in that large group much of the time. These posts also remind me of something that Michael Bernard Beckwith said that really made a strong impression on me and I come back to when I see events in the world that shock me. Excuse me if I don’t have the story completely correct, but here is the gist. Michael related how he was part of a political group as a young guy that had very different ideas about how the world should be run. One night at a meeting of his group he heard a voice asking him if things would be any different if his group really did come to power. He was forced to answer that it probably would not be better and that was the last meeting he ever attended. At the next meeting, there was actually a shooting, but luckily he wasn’t there. This says it all. Until the human heart is fundamentally different than it is today. In other words, until our species switches up its paradigm, we’ll be seeing more of the same. I do have hope that change is possible and we will evolve, although it may take a catastrophe to trigger it. I just don’t know when and how soon it will occur. It may be way beyond my remaining time on Earth.

    So let me end by saying, while I’m perplexed by Neale on a few points, I KNOW he’s got an awful lot of it right. As he always say, he could be wrong, but I’ve heard a few of the same conversations myself – and I think he is right. Wishing you all have a wonderful holiday season and thanks for sharing everything, friends. It’s been a wonderful “conversation” all these years, Neale.

    Namaste.

    • What a remarkable experience you had!

      “I do have hope that change is possible and we will evolve, although it may take a catastrophe to trigger it.”

      I come from the place & idea that I no longer need to be bonked on the head to get the message nor do I need catastrophes to get the point. That does not guarantee stuff won’t happen, but it certainly puts things hopefully in motion to have foresight & wisdom rule rather than the old school pain & suffering method.

      Rusty Pumpkin? Where did that name come from? 🙂

      • Rusty Pumpkin

        I hope you are right, Marko. I think most people need to hit rock bottom before they see the need for change, it doesn’t come naturally to our species. We do need a paradigm shift in values.

        Rusty Pumpkin? I’m a cat lover. Rusty and Pumpkin were two of the most wonderful cats I ever had. Both were orange tabbies and I named them for their fabulous coats. As they are both gone now, I never want to forget them, so I use them as my handle. RIP, dear felines, until we meet again.

        • Well RP, I was speaking for myself not needing to get bonked to get the message, I hope I’m passed that.

          I’m a big cat lover too, so I hear you. My brother who has had many cats had ones named Rusty & Pumpkin as well.

    • Patrick Gannon

      You do understand that other people around the world, who worship other gods or no gods (like myself) have similar experiences (as have I)? You saw Jesus, while someone in India having a transcendental experience would see Vishnu or someone else. All this proves is that our brains are capable of giving us intense experiences that are based on electrochemical reactions in our wondrous brains.

    • Gross Prophet

      Thank you so much for being willing to put that out there.

      ‘So let me end by saying, while I’m perplexed by Neale on a few points, I KNOW he’s got an awful lot of it right.’

      Coming from someone of similar background and experience, you expressed very well how I view his material.

  • mewabe

    Neale posted some interesting comments below, from his Facebook page.

    Some might think that I am splitting hair, but I am not…I am splitting atoms (seriously, subtleties are important, or should be).

    The idea that we are not the body is nothing new. And like all ideas expressed in short sentences, this can lead to confusion.

    If we are to hold the Cartesian, materialistic, common belief that the body is a thing, a vehicle, a biological mechanism, a machine, and separate from everything else, then that is correct, we are not this body, for the simple reason that this particular body does not exist…it is an erroneous concept.

    But if we are to understand that the physical body is a process, and that it is to the outer world as a whirlpool is to a river or a wave to an ocean, then we are that body, because we are BEING, and being is exactly this: a process. THAT connected body is as an extension of the natural world, and the natural world is as an extension of it. THAT body is a pattern that is emerging and existing in concert with an infinite number of other patterns, called animals, minerals, plants, insects, bacteria, liquids, gases, and yes even consciousness. It is connected not only to the physical but to a greater web of subtle energy and consciousness, and the very fact that it ages, dies and decays indeed proves that it is process.

    The ideal spiritual path might then not be that of retreating from the body and the physical world, as many spiritual disciplines propose which cannot see the eternal within the temporal, but on the contrary to identify with and totally embrace an ever expanding physical/spiritual reality until we hold within ourselves a vibrant reflection of the entire cosmos, in which case we will still be the body: that of the entire creation, which is better understood with a single word: one.

    • Neale has often said God is a process. My own response to Neale below was focused on the idea to have more discussions on the body.

    • Patrick Gannon

      In this FB post, Neale is again talking in absolutes, and making scientific claims but presenting no evidence whatsoever to back them up. He is claiming that our material world emerges from consciousness, when all the evidence that we have says the exact opposite. If he can pull out his PhD in theoretical physics, and explain why he is right and practically all other scientists are wrong, I would be very interested to read that evidence and to see some of the peer-reviewed papers supporting it in reputable scientific journals. Till then, it’s just woo.

      There is matter, comprised of particles that emerge from smaller particles, that at some scale can be said to be energy – but that doesn’t matter. We live in a material world of particles and anything that is going to affect us, has to affect us at the level of particles, and we know there are no forces that do this, which we are not aware of. If I understand the science, quantum field theory tells us that we’ve discovered all the fields and forces that can affect particles in the way they would need to be affected in order to change anything in our universe. You don’t heal heart tissue without moving particles. You don’t do auto-writing, without moving electrons, chemical particles, neurons. You don’t bend spoons without manipulating particles. You don’t levitate or move objects without affecting particles in ways that we would be able to observe and measure if these capabilities existed. Scientists have researched this exhaustively and that is why they are not on the psi bandwagon. They know it’s simply impossible, and the lack of compelling objective evidence after all of these years of trying to move particles with imaginary forces pretty much proves their point.

      On his FB post, did he add the disclaimer that one need not believe this?

      • mewabe

        As Aristotle put it, the beginning of philosophy is wonder…so is the beginning of spirituality, as well as science. With wonder comes appreciation and questions. To this day, many scientists, especially astronomers, are in awe of the universe. That is the best place they will ever be.

        I think (and this is strictly a philosophical viewpoint) that the day all questions are answered, either spiritually or scientifically or both, will be the day we can all either commit mass suicide while facing the prospect of absolute boredom at having nothing more to discover and wonder about, or destroy everything and start anew, as a poker player reshuffles the cards.

        I personally love a good mystery. I feel kind of sorry for those who appear to think that they have everything figured out. What is the point of a journey when you already know every inch of the path as well as the outcome? How could you play?

        The game of life is one of hide and seek, of coming and going, of remembering and forgetting, of having and loosing, of inhaling and exhaling, of sleeping and waking, of day and night. A perfect knowledge and mastery of all things would be the equivalent of driving a straight and flat road to infinity (the kind they have in Saskatchewan, Canada): you would fall asleep at the wheel…it would be the same as mastering and winning every game: you would be bored stiff.

        The exhilaration of having mastered all life in all of its aspects could very well be followed by this sudden realization: now we are in hell!

        Enjoy the unknown while it last!

        • Jethro

          Thank you Mewabe, I needed a little of that.

          • mewabe

            You are very welcome Jethro!

        • I think when we figure it all out, we simply start all over again & come into selective amnesia. That time is so far away as to be ridiculous. Mystery is fun. And CwG uses the idea you mentioned “How fun is it if every pass is a touchdown?”

          By the way I fool around with a future time travel concept at times knowing what is to happen in a football game & watching my reaction to knowing what exactly is about to play out, I can still enjoy it. That’s the joy of DVR recording. It’s an interesting experiment.

          While I totally agree we do love our mystery. I think certain mysteries known are fine especially around healing illness & negativity.

          As I so often say. We eventually out grow negativity. And in doing so we can enjoy life even more. I work & play not to have to get bonked over the head to get the message. I’m working & playing to out grow the need to have negatives teach me & prefer good things, happy positive things teach me. Peace is a good beginning step toward all that.

        • Patrick Gannon

          Yes, but philosophy is also about discovering truth. Philosophy is “the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence.”

          My problem with Neale in the excerpt you provided, is that he is speaking in absolutes about scientific principles he is not qualified to discuss. If he is going to propose that matter emerges from consciousness, he’s going to have to provide something besides his opinion, that this is true. Even if it is true – so what? We operate at the level of particles. Nothing affects us without affecting particles, and we know all the things that can do that.

          I cannot see a day when all philosophical or scientific questions will be answered. What is moral? What is ethical? Under what circumstances? And of course we still have an unfathomable amount to learn about our universe. It has been predicted for centuries that we know all there is to know, and that’s always been proven false, and certainly is false today. What we have is a “core theory” that explains our physical matter reality. We’re still studying the things that core theory emerges from, but the core theory has proven to be amazingly accurate and consistent.

          How about a journey to truth? What if the truth is, as it appears to be, that this is all we get? Why are we loathe to take that journey and see where it takes us? Why are we loathe to consider the possibility that we should treat people decently here and now because there will be no second chances? Neale’s vision is the same as religion – we get second chances – many of them. This raises the question, why worry about whether we get it right this time? We get to try again if we screw up. Or maybe we don’t.

          His New Age stuff, just like religion, is designed to help us face our fear of dying, and assures us that we will get countless second chances, with no fear of punishment, so why worry about the here and now? What about if we take a journey of truth and face that fear head on? What, if anything would that do for our society? As long as we continue to lie to ourselves by believing things we have no evidence for, we’re not going down that path to truthfulness, we’re just continuing to play hide and seek with our fears.

      • mewabe

        Hey Patrick, I think I confused you with my post…These are my own thoughts and responses to Neale’s Facebook comment, which is somewhere way down below a number of other comments, down the page. I did not quote any of his writings. I am the one making the claims about consciousness etc…So here is my disclaimer: this is how I IMAGINE things to be…I do not know how things really are. For the time being, this view of the universe works for me. Nothing is ever written in stone in my mind. As stated in the immediate comment below, my approach is one of enjoying the mystery of life. I am more of a “poet” or artist to be exact than scientifically minded…I prefer a landscape undefined and partially hidden in mist and fog than one sharply defined under the harsh noon sunlight. I prefer round and wiggly forms than straight lines and sharp angles. And I prefer to wander through life than follow a definite plan and a rigid linear path.

        Even though I do speak of the “divine”. I see it as a universal life force or energy and not in any way as a “person”, so I am very leery of anyone who thinks that he or she know what the divine wants or does not want (which is the very beginning of all religions, to attribute intentions to a “God” and delineate a “divine plan”).

        To me the “divine” just IS, and what that is is actually inconceivable, so I am not so concerned with it and I am, like a naturalist or atheist, more interested in the natural, physical world here and now than in abstract (and largely made up) concepts about divinity or heavenly realms, which have probably more to do with our own wishes and needs than reality.

        To me, “heaven” is what we make of it, as is life…not in some imagined future but here and now…heaven is under our feet, as well as within our being. Wherever we are or go, so is our “heaven” or “hell”, happiness, peace and joy or suffering.

        As far as the idea of oneness (to state that all life is interconnected and interdependent), I think it might be safe to say that the branch of science known as “ecology” has already proven it. Philosophically it is obvious that the human body cannot exist without its natural environment, just as the inner cannot exist without the outer, the above without the below or the solid without the void.

        The separate human ego is a handy illusion, giving us the idea that we can be in control. Yet the ego would not know how to grow a fetus from an adult human body, or digest a meal, or grow a single hair. We tend to give way too much importance to that tiny part of our mind or consciousness, and disregard the much greater part, the as yet undefined unconscious, subconscious and all of nature, without which we would not exist.

        • Patrick Gannon

          Ah, thank you for the clarification. It seemed as though you were relaying Neale’s thoughts from his FB page.

      • AKA Patrick

        For a physicist’s treatment of consciousness creating the physical world, try Amit Goswami’s “How Consciousness Creates the Physical World” and/or “The Kybalion”, the first principle of which clearly states that the Universe is “mental”.

        • Patrick Gannon

          I have been reading up on such things for a long time, and I have yet to see anything presented with peer-reviewed objective evidence to a reputable scientific journal to support this idea. I am open to the possibility, but there is no compelling evidence to support it.

          I recently reviewed results from one of Dean Radin’s “Noetic Institute” experiments in which researchers tried to affect the results of the double slit experiment. Results indicated a small inclination towards such effects being possible when performed by experienced meditators, but the evidence, while interesting, was not very compelling, and I’ve seen no indication that unbiased researchers have confirmed results.

          As I told Neale in an earlier post, if in fact there is a force, a consciousness that plays some role here, it is so weak and insignificant as to be of no value. If you can only on occasion direct the occasional photon, of what value is that? It’s not going to grow back limbs or cure cancer or heal heart tissue. Such things would take the manipulation of matter in such a clear and obvious way that we could not help but be aware of it.

    • Gross Prophet

      Very elegant summation of some very powerful foundational principles. Thank you for that. I hope to contemplate on some of this for some time.

      • mewabe

        Thank you!

  • Jethro

    What could cause an entire species to change? I’m waiting to hear these ideas. I agree it will take a catastrophic event. World war type of event. An event that effects the world on a government level. I know I can change myself, I have done so and continue to do so. The more I refuse to carry so much anger the more I see it in others and realize that it’s the competition between humans that caused my way of seeing life as I have. I don’t wish to compete anymore. A smile and a greeting doesn’t go as far as it use to. The trust between humans has been broken.

    • Rusty Pumpkin

      I thought of a line from a remake of a classic movie from the early 1950’s, The Day the Earth Stood Still, that speaks to large-scale change. The original and its remake are pretty different films, but both are great and I can really recommend them if you haven’t seen them. In the new version Keanu Reeves plays Klaatu, an alien who has come to Earth to “cleanse” it of its human parasites. As the planet is about to be destroyed, friendly scientists try to explain that we can indeed change as a species. One of them says, “…at the precipice, we change.” When we realize that that we’re one click away from destroying everything we hold dear, ourselves and our planet, I suspect we’ll turn back and rethink our world view – massively. I hope so, anyhow.

      Namaste.

      • AKA Patrick

        That movie (the remake) has immense implications; the most important of which is that which points to “LOVE”, which is what Life is all about. Notice in the movie that the robot is given “irrevocable power to destroy”, so if they do like us it will destroy them. To me, one of the significant things about our
        present state of evolution is that we can do that without being FORCED. Which is what the greed and power of today’s world does. We have been the “Ugly Americans” to the world for much too long. And I don’t believe we have to have our arms twisted to do it. All we need to do is open our minds and hearts to our brothers and sisters of the world, whoever and wherever they are. And then simply: :BE LOVE AND LOVING.

        • Aka Patrick, see my reply to you on the bottom of this page.

      • Jethro

        Hi Rusty Pumpkin, I posted here but it appears to be lost in cyber space… I did see the two great movies your talking about. The original last seen in the 70’s. An “ancient aliens” version of Noah’s ark. We’ve gone a click or two beyond failure on a few things and we’re still moving in the same direction. I can change my inner views on these things and create an acceptance, that everything is moving along the way it’s supposed to be, or I can keep saying it’s time to change. As long as there are those hoping for changes, I guess I’ll keep agreeing with them as I feel the same. I’m hoping we find something to speed up the changes needed in the world quick, not just ways to change our views about it so we’re at peace with it.

        Love, kindness, and caring isn’t like a flu shot, it’s more like eating. Share your love in daily life, not as preventative maintenance when it looks like someone needs it. We could use a caring epidemic.

        • Spiritual_Annie

          Jethro,

          I love it! “Love, kindness, and caring isn’t like a flu shot, it’s more like eating. Share your love in daily life, not as preventative maintenance when it looks like someone needs it. We could use a caring epidemic.” That’s a keeper.

          Love and Blessings Always,
          ~Annie

          • Jethro

            Hi Annie, thank you!

  • mewabe

    In societies where employees can still be reprimanded or fired for “insubordination”, where individuals are raised, from infancy, to acknowledge, “respect” and never challenge authority, where religions still tell you to obey your government blindly (citing their sacred texts to prove their point), where cultural myths of loyalty and patriotism dictate that you do so at the cost of numbing your own intelligence or conscience, I think that Neale’s vision (If I am understanding it correctly) of a God who is not a commander-in-chief, not a boss, not a king or a lord, is badly needed to reform the beaten-down consciousness of the masses.

    Even if this were his one and only contribution, trying to stir the world away from a monarchical divinity would be a very worthy achievement, if the implications can be understood, which are that humanity must abandon its strong desire to be told what to do and what to think, as well as its fear of anyone who tells them to decide for themselves.

    Hitler’s whole career was based on the idea that “the masses are female” and want to be dominated by the kind of “alpha male” that runs a baboon pack. Religion has the same attitude, even those that no longer torture and kill people who refuse to submit; here is a passage from a papal encyclical from 1906 titled ” Vehementer Nos”: “The one duty of the multitudes is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the pastors”.

    Patrick is going to love this one, from Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit order: “That we may be altogether of the same mind and in conformity with the Church herself, if we shall have defined anything to be black which to our eyes appears to be white, we ought in like manner to pronounce it to be black”.

    And it’s not just the Catholics; from C. S. Lewis: “But in addition to the content, the mere obeying is intrinsically good, for, in obeying, a rational creature consciously enacts its creaturely role, reverses the act by which we fell, treads Adam’s dance backward, and returns”.

    Conservatives in particular, and especially those who live in cultures whose foundations are one of the 3 Abrahamic and patriarchal religion, have a fundamental worldview based on obedience and submission. For all their talk about freedom in America, all conservatives want the opposite: a sable and well established chain of command, which to them equates order. This is why they hated the 60’s counterculture, why they hate civil disobedience, why they turn to the authorities and demand “strong” leadership (the repression of dissent) when feeling threatened.

    The social scientist Jonathan Haidt has identified what he calls the five foundations of morality, upon which societies are supposed to be based: harm/care, fairness/reciprocity, in-group/loyalty, authority/respect, and purity/sanctity.

    In-group/loyalty and authority/respect are what cause individuals to become a conforming mass of mindless uniform “rank and file” units who could potentially blindly follow their leaders to armageddon.

    According to the pastor Ray Stedman, Christ has a right to rule over every area of our life, to control our thought-life, to have every thought taken captive to obey him. This is still the foundation of western civilization. Should we be surprised that governmental institutions are following in the footsteps of this religious monarchical figure (Christ) and claiming the right to control more and more of our actions and even our thoughts?

    Make no mistake, true spirituality, one that empowers and frees the individual and restores his or her spiritual sovereignty, is absolutely revolutionary. It is actually evolutionary, but blocked evolution becomes revolution. It cannot coexist with the beliefs that form the foundations of hierarchal societies, of patriarchal, archaic cultures that demand of the individual that he or she submit to those who claim to have authority over them.

    An enlightened person, who claims to embody his or her own divinity outside of any established religious order and spiritual hierarchy, is seen as a blasphemer for the simple reason that to basically claim to be as God is, in the mind of the believers, to claim to be as the commander-in-chief of the universe, the ultimate boss. Of course that would be very presumptuous and kind of insane. On the other hand when one understands that the divine is not a boss, to claim to be as “it” or a part of it is as normal and logical as claiming to be as nature or a part of the natural world.

    A wild horse cannot live inside any enclosure. Similarly, the person who is spiritually liberated finds it difficult to live within systems that keep people in a state of infancy, in subjection and mental and/or physical bondage.

    • Perhaps some day we will create a system which truly does serve the people & the majority. The elite may still rule, but I believe they’re days are numbered & beginning to crumble. Of course who knows what the future truly beholds.

      Those of us who choose to imbibe peace & work & play toward our own enlightenment can influence others in what ever way we do.

      By the way, I was talking to a friend today via Skype & we talked about Byron Katie & Eckhart Tolle as enlightened people. They had lighting bolt experiences that led to their personal enlightenment. We could not name anyone we knew who was enlightened by the slower & perhaps more methodical course many of us are on.

      • mewabe

        Speaking of play…there is a lot of talk about freedom in this nation. But a freedom that does not engender joy is not actual freedom, it is merely a concept, or a permission by our masters to be slightly freer than were our ancestors under monarchies (such as having “free speech zones”). Actual freedom, which is unconditional, makes you jump with joy, as do animals when freed from a cage and released into the wilderness!

        I agree about the lighting bolt experience. Whatever happened to me (the second time) was quite sudden as well, overnight (I was psychically warned about it the day before, as it was challenging). I think it might have something to do with what is called the Kundalini. At the risk of sounding insane, I can reveal that to this day (even as I write this) I feel a constant energy current above my head, which is supposed to be the 7th chakra, the one that connects you to the cosmos. The energy is kind of like electricity, and can be very intense, like strong bolts of energy. I have also felt a spiraling energy that is like a vortex (going upward), around me, which seems to open the “other side” even more for me, along with a feeling of “ascending”, of a speeding up of my own energies, and weightlessness.

        It can happen to anyone…all we need is to connect directly with the universe, as well as discard our limiting mental images and concepts. Enlightenment begins in the bare feet that lovingly connect with grandmother earth, and rises in the heart and mind that understand that there is no separation between the self and the cosmos…it is all the same Self, or life, expressing itself in different forms, and in perfect unity.

        No need to call 911 Patrick…apart from these crazy thoughts and experiences I am normal, I swear.

        • That’s cool energy bro on the crown chakra. May I also get there sooner than later. 😉

          Freedom & democracy are messy & as such, people go to authority & tyranical order as it’s easier. It’s my understanding that in the “Greater Community” in space, that there are many planets & societies that are restrictive & have even less freedom than we have. Freedom is another word for God as CwG states. It’s most precious!

          I believe there are many planets where freedom & Highly evolved beings are the norm too.

          • mewabe

            It might be that freedom and responsibility go hand in hand, and most of humanity seems to fear itself, to fear its creativity and the responsibility that seems to go with creation.
            It might be the reason why it chooses to live under the authority of leadership, from its concept of a lord God to governments, as in this infantile state it can place the responsibility on the leadership rather than itself.
            We (humanity) will eventually grow up…

          • Right. We will eventually grow uP & outgrow our violent unproductive wasteful ways. So we start with ourselves & hope that we can eventually snowball evolution & live in the freedom we so crave.

            Yet maybe we came here & signed up so to speak to work & play though this challenge. Though I can tell you there’s too much cruelty in this life that makes it terribly hard to witness. I hope this is my last incarnation on such a primitive planet…….

          • mewabe

            I agree…on all points. All of humanity’s suffering is unnecessary, and this knowledge makes it even harder to witness. As far as incarnations, we choose, in concert with others, what best suits our needs and desires. This is the last one here for me, even though I love the natural earth, but nature exists everywhere in the universe, in different forms and different dimensions, some less dense than this one.

    • Patrick Gannon

      But why do we need any gods at all? Neale wants to redefine God to be more feminine, but it’s far simpler to show that there are no gods at all, than it is to show that Neale’s god or any god actually exists. Why do we need any gods at all?

      As long as the word “god” is used, the one thing that Neale says that he wants to cure is guaranteed to occur – separation. The word is guaranteed to separate and divide people; there’s no getting away from that baggage in the short term. It seems to me that if we really want to make progress combatting monarchical, maniacal, tyrannical oppressive gods, the best thing we can do is to just get rid of all of them. We don’t need them. Even NAG is tyrannical – we don’t get to just die; we have to go through this crap again and again and again.

      As I interpret it, you are suggesting that we throw away all the things of childhood, but we hang on to our blanky; our comfort blanket, our torn up teddy bear, or whatever it is that we cling to in order to avoid facing reality.

      • Mateia Andrei (A true friend)

        ” we have to go through this crap again and again and again.”
        Not only that but apparently this life that we have chosen is perfect!!
        This God strikes me as being mentally retarded rather than a tyrant.

      • mewabe

        We do not need any concept at all. All we need is to understand life, and live in accordance with this understanding. And that’s where humans are cursed, as compared to animals…because they have developed the ability to conceptualize, to develop abstract thoughts, and to confuse their own symbols with reality, to for example confuse the map with the territory and paper money or gold or silver with wealth…to believe themselves to be separate egos tightly wrapped in bags of skin and forced to confront what they perceive to be a hostile universe that they must conquer and subdue, even if they have to kill everything in the process.
        We would be a lot better off following our instincts, as do animals, than our abstract concepts or beliefs.
        What I am suggesting is unconditional freedom…to not live under anything (religion or government) but in harmony with everything, in cooperation with everything and everyone. That’s utopia, for now, until humans finally realize that they won’t survive without this new perspective, when they are on the brink of total global destruction.

        • Jethro

          “believe themselves to be separate egos tightly wrapped in bags of skin and forced to confront what they perceive to be a hostile universe that they must conquer and subdue, even if they have to kill everything in the process.”

          …..yup.

        • Patrick Gannon

          I was responding to this when I asked why we needed gods in the first place: “I think that Neale’s vision (If I am understanding it correctly) of a God who is not a commander-in-chief, not a boss, not a king or a lord, is badly needed to reform the beaten-down consciousness of the masses.” I don’t see why we need any god at all, and I don’t see how his vision is going to reform the beaten down masses. Those who have walked away from gods seem to be doing pretty well.

          Actually, we are separate egos tightly wrapped in bags of skin and forced to confront what is an absolutely hostile universe. We have a Oneness in terms of our electrochemical makeup and our shared human genome, but there’s no evidence for any other sort of Oneness that plays any role in our physical matter reality. We are but a miniscule oasis within that incredibly hostile universe, in which life managed to somehow originate and persist for some limited time. If some god’s purpose was to create life, why is nearly all of the universe utterly hostile to life? In an earlier time when we had nothing but our wits, teeth and nails to protect us, the universe, our earth, our habitat, was far more hostile than it is now – just look up life expectancy prior to the development of germ theory. Evolution is a process of natural selection for fitness within in a particular environment. If we had not evolved the traits necessary to survive our hostile universe, we wouldn’t be here. Now some of those traits may work against our continuing existence, but we can’t forget that we evolved them for a purpose – survival. If the SHTF, those base instincts for survival may come in handy to the few who remain, and there will be no talk of peace and love and equal rights.

          I’m not so sure I agree that we should follow our instincts. It is our base instincts that gave us the ability to survive, but which now might not be as beneficial as they once were. We have to overcome our base instincts, or perhaps see them eventually evolve out of our genome over many, many generations. Base instincts in nature essentially come down to kill or be killed. Our “abstract thoughts” have led us to consider all sorts of grandiose ideas that do not occur in the rest of the natural world – such as equal rights for all people regardless of sex, race, religion or sexual orientation, elimination of slavery, the ability to organize and live in relative peace, the ability to create art and music and literature and amazing works of science and technology. I’m not so convinced that living a harsh life of day to day survival that culminates in being eaten alive at the end of it all, is really something I’d be interested in going back to.

          It may well be that we will snuff ourselves out, and this may be the evolutionary path for other beings, which might explain why we don’t see any evidence of extraterrestrial life in a universe that should be teeming with it. If we are to have a chance, we need to turn away from the basic instincts of kill or be killed and turn instead to “abstract thoughts” that might help us figure out a way to keep from going over the cliff we are headed for.

  • Insight from the Dalai Lama from (my new daily calendar).

    “When peace reigns in the mind, one is always happy, even if external conditions are not ideal.”

    • mewabe

      Peace comes with connecting and uniting with reality and letting go of unreality…and for this we must be able to differentiate between the real and the unreal…that’s the challenging part for most, as most of humanity has been raised in unreal cultures, cultures that are the products of the ego-mind and at odd with the inner spirit.

  • New blog just went up on enlightenment for those interested.

  • El Ess

    Wow. Though I have heard of Neale, and may have read one or two of his books, it’s very interesting to stumble across his writing again. He is in the very least thought provoking. I have had some profound moments of remembering who I am and when I chose to incarnate into this current era. But simultaneously it became quite clear to me that the entire experience of life was something I chose to create as I went along. Just as in nighttime sleeping, so life is day time dreaming. You never actually move from one place to another. You are always just as when you dream at night, still where you always were not having done anything more than to dream of a fantastical life experience as one or another .personality. All of our lives take place in this moment. There is only one moment, the present moment in which we experience our dreams because there is no future and the past is gone. And here is where I diverge from a small detail in Neale’s narrative. He often refers in one way or another to how we can move forward (there is no moving anywhere since we cannot move out of the present moment) in one way or another to become better (also a concept that is useless because we are Who we are and there is nothing to we can do to become anything other). We can only be love and feel love or the lack of it. This is why our experiences mean nothing, nor do they change anything. The best experience I suppose is to remember Who you are and remember what is true.

    Some people like to divest themselves of having to mention God, I suspect from being brought up to fear the concept of God as a big powerful and revengeful Creature who randomly causes great suffering on earth, sort of like ourselves. Whereas I was raised to believe God is Love and does not have a vengeful characteristic at all. So I do not fear naming God as supreme being. God’s love is a love that shines brilliantly through us and the entire universe. God is creative energy and that energy is love. The very trees raise their limbs towards the universal love in worship of the One who brought them forth in love.

    I love to see as much God in everything as I can. I recommend the Tao de Jing