With the Santa Monica shooting added to the list, do you think Americans are ready to have a serious discussion about ending easy access to guns — especially semi-automatic assault-style weapons, one of which was again used in this latest murderous rampage?

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  • Kenny Stringer

    hello, I’m new here and loving what I’m seeing so far! just looking at the above question I feel inclined to put forward a thought if I may….
    my thought on this issue is and has been, but may not necessarily continue to be (in other words I’m open to suggestion), that (and I know this is a well worn phrase) guns don’t kill people, people kill people. The murderous rampage as I see it is coming from the hearts of those humans who would commit such acts, the guns themselves possess no harmful intent. So to address the guns themselves as being the problem seems counter intuitive to me. Eliminating guns will not eliminate violence – and further, any legislation of gun access will only affect those in society prepared to abide by such legislation, or the law abiding citizen. It seems to me that those who would commit this kind of violence are not those who would pay much attention to any laws we could put in place. In any case, and again I am open to being corrected here, but I don’t see easy access to guns as the problem. The real problem that must be addressed here is the sickness of heart, mind and spirit that leads to gun violence.

    I’ll conclude by saying that I’m not a gun advocate and I don’t own and never have owned a gun. But I support the rights of others to own them and I feel that gun laws will only take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens, not criminals. The ability to throw little pieces of lead at each other is not the problem, the will to do so is, in my humble opinion.

    • Erin

      Kenny…posted before reading…I should know better than this…I repeated you almost entirely. Nice page we’re on. 🙂

      • Michael L

        Hi Erin,

        This begs to ask the question, why does Neale believe that a tool is the problem???
        Is there a spirit in the tool? Can this tool create???
        ??????????

        • Erin

          idk…I usually only speak for my Self…but we all have our human moments, don’t we? 🙂

        • Mike Brown

          It will be a new book maybe? The Spirit of the Tool

      • Mike Brown

        don’t worry its all good

  • Erin

    The only “easy” gun access, Neale, is the Black Market…Have money, have weaponry…of ANY kind imaginable, including bio-chems, rockets, & fully loaded tanks. The vast majority of law-abiding citizens have theirs registered & use them with codes & rules…no matter what kind they are, or for what purpose they serve the owner.

    One should not be adamant about one style of weapon, however, nor one aspect of ownership or use, now should they? Just sayin’…Just because a few use guns as their cry for help, or to present others with sights of things that need addressed, these are not the only forms being used to express the angers, fears, & heartbreaks of human states.

    Would it not serve equally, if penises were ‘confiscated’ when used as weaponry upon another?…Obviously, registration of them doesn’t…but then, much of man-kind would be ultimate-eunuchs by now, wouldn’t they? Words that steered a child to commit suicide should result in tongues being removed, No?…As should the hands of fist-loving abusers? Oh, heck, let’s just stone all of these ‘types’ to death & get stuff over with already!??? If we were to return to such communal expressions of ‘justice’, would not the community See more than just guns of their “murderous rampages”? Hmmm…???

    No…I believe we are rather being directed to move higher than this…aside of pre-directed medial headliners, aside from bogus laws, aside from ‘the few’ of any regard. Essentially, WE are no longer only a few ‘New-Agers’…”We are Legion!”…does this make Us demonic? Heavens, No…just stating a fact with use of a colorful metaphor…that would undoubtedly throw every Bible-wielder into fits of Witch-hunt delight if We bannered such in the next NY parade…Perhaps giving the gay community a little break.(?) Oooh…a negative with a positive ‘aside’. 🙂

    “I send you nothing but Angels.”

    Namaste’/Good Journey <3

    • Michael L

      Well said Erin, and love your idea of what the problem is not, Semi automatic weapons.

      When are we going to stop this knee jerk reaction to what happens in our faces in life, instead of realizing the observation of it is for us to get to crux of the mental health of the killers problem.

      • Erin

        Soon, Michael…verrry soon…and Mother Nature is going to assist with this project of Ours. Seems She ‘comes to the rescue’ when balance is in need of serious refines. This time, I believe She has called in the EMTs…Extra-terrestrial Movement Techs. Should be an interesting observe. 🙂

  • Hello
    Here is a question;
    How much terror will there have to be created by so called terrorists before people give up all the guns and all the civil and God given freedom to the Home and land Security?

    • Kenny Stringer

      we shouldn’t have to give up guns or freedom, we should just give up the urge to hurt each other with them.

      • Erin

        Perfect point, Ken…tho I believe Victor was being rhetorical. 🙂

  • Stephen mills

    Then why make them in the first place ,a gun has only one design that is to kill sometimes by accident sometimes by intent sometimes by defence the function of a gun is to destroy .Have you seen the damage these things do ? Have you seen a child blown apart by a gun that could be your child my child is it not all our children .Have we as an evolving society not had enough of guns hey let’s all have guns even children ,let’s all have an endless supply of ammunition to shoot at each other heck who cares anyway !

    Freedom by the way does not give you the right to have a gun ,this is the 21 st century not the Wild West of America .Freedom gives us the right to not create them in the first place .

    • Michael L

      Stephen,

      Rights are what in your opinion?
      Here in this particular country we have a right to bear arms, if you desire.
      Just move to another country if you don’t.

  • Kenny Stringer

    I don’t understand the layout of this forum, it does not appear to display comments chronologically or in the order of any kind of actual conversation

    • Hi Kenny – There is a place right underneath where you write your comment to select the order in which you see the string of comments. It is defaulted to “best.” If you click on that, it will give you the option to select “newest” (where the newest comments will appear at the top) or “oldest” (where the oldest comments will appear at the top) Hope this helps. Let me know if you need further assistance. I will be happy to help.

      • Kenny Stringer

        ah, thanks Lisa! I get it now – I like to see things chronologically in order as people have commented, like an actual conversation, so oldest is the option for me!

  • Mike Brown

    When 5 year olds shoot 3 year olds the only answer must be to arm the 3 year old !. Or not . Stop the madness of semi automatic weapons in the home. We’ve had gun control in Canada for years. Your government doesn’t need guns to run your life. See Prism program. Frankly I think your country is divided and the red vs blue states will never come to consensus.

    • Kenny Stringer

      Mike, the US is in a cold civil war in my opinion – red vs blue – it is totally insane.

  • Kenny Stringer

    Mike and Stephen, condescending sarcasm is not a constructive contribution to an intelligent discussion. Talking about giving guns and endless supplies of ammo to children doesn’t make a valid point worth considering. Emotional rhetoric and condescending sarcasm have no place in an intelligent conversation.

    • Stephen mills

      Kenny I did get a bit emotional on that one ,I was trying to make the point that if guns are available so easily and people are emotionally on edge highly influenced by their violent culture then it doesn’t take much for violence to erupt .So the problem is exasperated by the guns and ammunition being easily available at places like Walmart .People like Michael Moore hold up a mirror and say this is the way it is in America does anybody really care !

      • Kenny Stringer

        I understand Stephen. This topic is a mine field of emotion, especially for those who’ve been directly affected by gun violence, victims and families of victims… But if here in this little conversation of ours we start hurtling verbal bullets at each other we’re just part of the problem we’d like to solve. Peace. (sorry, I was born in the 60’s ;))
        Oh yeah, and I think you know that alot of people really care. Alot of people probably really don’t care though, you’re right there, sadly.